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Disappear. the vaccine is like a magic pill. he believed he had magic powers to deal with what he perceived as an insurrection at the border. now, i'm not saying he thinks he's a wizard, but what does that speak to in terms of his concept of power and potency? >> it's a really interesting question because on the one hand it shows that he's really delusional and on the other hand it shows how unwilling he is to do the hard work. so it's simply by virtue of his presence and his leadership these things will suddenly be fixed somehow. and it's also a sign that he was not willing to take any of the...

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Know who they are and agree to conceal their identities. but when sources are unknown, even to the reporters and editors, how could the information be vetted. that is one of the questions for steven engleberg, the editor and chief and kind enough to join me now. it is a heck of a school and you're rolling it out on your website. but could you tell us when obtained these documents and how you knew if they were legitimate. >> we don't want to talk about too much about timing or chronology or interactions but let me say even when you know the source, unless you have magic powers of mind reading, ...

Anti-globalist, anti-international, and so, you know, what do they believe, not, you know, not the toast, the roast. >> now, he didn't mention iran and that's kind of interesting because he's had a lot of negative things to say about iran, as does john bolton. but he did say in an interview that he might want to talk to hassan rouhani, he seems like a really good man. same issue, roast or toast. >> put out a tweet and he said i'm sure -- >> that's right, it was a tweet, you're right. >> the other thing he kept saying was, you know, they want to meet with me, except rouhani said no, we don't wa...

With me here in the studio to share their insights, maggie haberman, phil mattingly, and eliana johnson. the president is very different. there are a lot of systems in washington that need to be changed. is this one of them? what is the president's impulse here? is it i have this power, i can't get congress to do anything, is that what it is? >> i think that's a big aspect of it. the other thing i'm baffled by with the pardon coverage is the president has been fascinated by his pardon power, when he first pardoned joe arpaio last year. this is one of the magic powers he didn't understand how i...