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The next step is to bridge the differences between the two bills so the president can get something on his desk to sign. in order to do that two things will happen. first the house will pass the senate version of the bill and then there will be a small package of tweaks to that bill that will be passed by the democrats under majority rules. all appearances are it's going to happen. there are things the republicans can do to yell and scream about it. there are ways they can try to slow it down. there are epithets they can scream at it and crowds to be whipped into blood-thirsty fear about it, b...

Bills so the president can get something on his desk to sign. in order to do that two things will happen. first the house will pass the senate version of the bill and then there will be a small package of tweaks to that bill that will be passed by the democrats under majority rules. all appearances are it's going to happen. there are things the republicans can do to yell and scream about it. there are ways they can try to slow it down. there are epithets they can scream at it and crowds to be whipped into blood-thirsty fear about it, but it's going to happen. all that's left is to procedurally...

Amendme amendment, but that is a distinct difference between whether we should pass things with 51 or 60 votes. t the minority party in congress is the 60 votes. >> and the concept, madison's concept that the senate was going to be used -- what did he say the saucer -- >> the saucer, right. >> that has a very important role, but we're going from a 67-vote, majority needed to kill filibuster, to 60, and i suspect it may be majority rules sooner or later. and if it is, my prediction, mika, it will be democrats who are hurt the most by this. coming up next year. >> that's the other thing. >> all ...

>> larry: what's wrong with majority rules? >> well, because that's not how the senate works. the senate works with 60 votes. now what the president is promoting is nuclear option, which is 50 votes. so we should have an up or down vote. >> larry: but it used -- it used that majority rules on the bush tax cuts, was 51 votes. >> well, the house uses straight majority rule, the senate doesn't. what this would mean, larry, is the senate has to break their own rules in order to pass the bill. >> larry: and that's wrong? >> owner i think so. sure. >> larry: and congressman grayson, why do you think...

And now what the president is promoting is a nuclear option, which is 50 votes. so we should have an up or down vote. >> larry: but it used -- it used that majority rules on the bush tax cuts, was 51 votes. >> well, the house uses straight majority rule, the senate doesn't. what this would mean, larry, is the senate has to break their own rules in order to pass the bill. >> larry: and that's wrong? >> oh, i think so, sure. >> larry: and congressman grayson, why do you think they should break this rule, which they have done a few times in the past. >> my esteemed colleague from minnesota is ent...