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We were all sitting around... ..and had a nude model, and everybody was quietly drawing away, and i looked around the room, and i thought, what is happening in this room is something that we never experienced for one split second at the royal academy of dramatic art. really creative work is happening, everybody in the room is looking at something that's real and finding an organic, truthful way of expressing it, which we didn't do as student actors. it was all mechanical and superficial and inorganic, and therefore, dull. and that revelation, in that moment, in the life drawing class — that,...

And to cut a long story short, he was impossible to direct. he'd say, "oh, a director's just a chairman." i'd say, "why don't you move over there on that...?" he'd say, "why? "i could move there, i could move anywhere." and so... at this point, i'd already... and we've talked about this, i'd already formulated notions about... because i wanted to write and direct and i'd formulated notions about other collaborative ways of making work. and this experience, much though i felt... think the play is great and much though i was very fond of halliwell and we had a good gang of folk involved, it was ...

That we never experienced for one split second at the royal academy of dramatic art. really creative work is happening, everybody in the room is looking at something that's real and finding an organic, truthful way of expressing it, which we didn't do as student actors. it was all mechanical and superficial and inorganic, and therefore, dull. and that revelation, in that moment, in the life drawing class — that, you know, absolutely resonated with notions that i had on the go, in a primitive form, at that point in time, that somehow you could create... ..theatre, you could create films, in a...

That person they know, and then we meld them together and the character is created. but of course, the two famous myths about what i do with actors is, one is that the actors come with ideas, and the committee is formed as to what the subject, that's not the case at all. in fact, it's very — it's essential that they... ..when i say to an actor, participate in this piece of work, this play or this film, we can't talk about a character, because there isn't a character. you and i are going to collaborate to create a character, and you will never know anything about the whole thing, except what ...

Thought about films was, wouldn't it be great if you could have a film where the characters in the film were like real people, not like actors? and the other thing, which is of far, far less significance, or of no importance at all, is that watching westerns, you know, because of the nature of the number of frames on a length of film, the wheels on the, on a vehicle or a stagecoach would go around backwards. yes. and i used to think, sit there thinking, "when i make films, they'll go round the right way." now that was from a very early age. what sort of age? the first big cultural influence th...