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Verbal— what point does it assert more than verbal objections? and that's a question— verbal objections? and that's a question i— verbal objections? and that's a question i can't answer, and the consequences, as malcolm said, would terrible _ consequences, as malcolm said, would terrible be _ consequences, as malcolm said, would terrible be if— consequences, as malcolm said, would terrible be if they lead to a third world _ terrible be if they lead to a third world war — terrible be if they lead to a third world war. but at what point do we say we _ world war. but at what point do we...

Robert mueller is really digging in to the money trail? >> i think it's very significant. we've seen a lot of press in the past few months about how the real estate property market works. it is apparently, apparently, a well-known con duit for money laundering. that's not to say that the trump empire or kushner were necessarily involved. but there's a lot of discussion around kushner's investments in new york, who his co-investors were, whether russians owned property or condominiums in some of the properties owned by trump and kushner. so i think what this begins to tell us, in addition to wh...

Games. one hand, plenty of evidence that he's got exposure for something that has nothing to do with russia or the trump campaign. and we've seen that mueller, he goes in. he wouldn't have any problem indicting manafort on all of that stuff to get him to cooperate. but make no mistake. the subject of this investigation is whether the trump campaign conspired with the russians in order to subvert american democracy. if manafort has information about that, that's what's most of interest to special counsel mueller. >> same question to you on that, malcolm, because manafort obviously ran the trump...

Done. so it's rough for the oligarchs, a hell of a lot rougher for the people in the united states. so i'm glad that mueller is pressing down and i'm glad as malcolm said, the net is widening and tightening at the same time, sat the same time we are running out of time. i hope that consider that. >> well said. thank you all. and one more note on russiagate. could robert mueller be "times'" person of the yaoer? donald trump claimed on twitter her turned down the magazine they probably would give him. donald trump was quickly corrected about this. who do you think it could be? go to my page on...

Campaign, michael flynn, start with him. if you go back to, travel back to when jim comey testified in front of the congressional committee and released the memo which shows in his view trump was asking him to end the flynn investigation, to go easy on michael flynn. we have also the stories of donald trump reaching out to michael flynn saying, stay strong. what, in your view, malcolm, having lived this entire situation for over a year, is michael flynn the person who most likely has the answer to whether or not the trump campaign colluded with russia? or is his real jeopardy that he was makin...