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MSNBC Dateline Extra December 9, 2019 05:28:00

Waiting anymore. reporter: they re going to run. they re going to run. reporter: time to move. fast. they caught up to franc cano as he was boarding a bus. and steven gordon? they found him where he worked, an auto body shop next door to hardy windows. but he made a run for it. reporter: ran out the door? on a bicycle, yes. he had a little collision with one of our surveillance units and a little flying over the handle bars. and he was taken into custody. reporter: both men were charged with four counts each of first degree murder and forcible rape. hi, steven. and detective trapp prepared to confront a suspected serial killer. coming up. i knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview i had done. he s cunning. manipulative. he didn t have to talk to you. ....

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MSNBC Dateline Extra December 9, 2019 05:34:00

i just wanted to sleep. i wanted to, like, go to sleep and wake up and pinch myself, and and make it a different world. exactly. reporter: detective julissa trapp wanted to speak with both men, of course. but cano lawyered up. so she tried gordon, still in a wheelchair after his bike accident. hi, steven. hi. how are you? and i knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview i had done. he s cunning, manipulative. he didn t have to talk to you. he did not have to talk to me. are you cold? do you want a blanket? yeah. if you don t mind. no, not at all. reporter: but detective trapp has a way, as they say. you were actually compassionate. thank you. you re welcome. you were kind to him. you brought him a blanket, food. here is our chips. thank you. yes. we actually shared two meals together. it is spicy. i told you. i told you to be careful. ....

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MSNBC Dateline December 8, 2019 08:38:00

reporter: luken discovered darker secrets as well. john supplied the opioids that killed his own addicted brother. he was alone with his sick father when the old man died rather suddenly. john wasn t charged in those cases, but there were others, said luken, and as the years went on, he developed a certain criminal specialty. he would go on dating websites and he would find women that usually had good financial backing. he always told people he was a doctor. reporter: he seemed like an ideal catch, i suppose. yes. reporter: for a lot of these women. he was a true con man. he d take their money and when they would find out about him john would threaten them, he would terrorize them. reporter: how bad was he? john was the most dangerous, treacherous, manipulative, deceitful criminal that i d investigated in 40 years of law enforcement. reporter: once terra learned about john s past, she was consumed with worry. ....

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MSNBC Dateline Extra November 29, 2019 06:39:00

Years, todd maintained, as he had from the very beginning, that he killed rachel only to save his own life, to save himself and his children. from jail, he and his family fought a losing battle with rachel s father, don hatfield, who won custody of those children. and here began atoning for the sins of his youth by devoting his life to three little kids, eva, ariel and alex. that s the baby brother? reporter: it was after all that that they held the trial. prosecutor lisette suder intended to portray todd as a manipulative and devious man who murdered not one wife but two. that is if she could persuade a california judge to allow an old georgia case to be dusted off and brought back to life. i felt confident that i had the law behind me on that. and i submitted my brief, and i submitted the legal arguments that supported that. reporter: and? ....

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MSNBC Dateline Extra November 29, 2019 09:38:00

he discovered darker secrets as well. john supplied the opioids that killed his own addicted brother. he was alone with his sick father and the old man died rather suddenly. john wasn t charged in those cases but there were others and as the years went on, developed a certain criminal specialty. he would go on dating websites and he would find women that usually had good financial backing. he always told people he was a doctor. he seemed like an ideal catch for a lot of these women. he was a true con man. he would take their money and when they would find out john would threaten and terrorize them. how bad was he? john was the most dangerous, treacherous, manipulative, deceitful criminal that i have investigated in years of law enforcement. once tara learned about john s past, she was consumed with worry. ....

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