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And its frightening to see violence being threatened and used in a political campaign. I worry about threats. I worry about whats being said online, about many, many people, not just the former president. And he should be doing, if he were really a leader, he should be doing what he can to calm the matters, not try to just continue to throw, you know, Red Meat out there to get people riled up. Former Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton condemning the apparent Assassination Attempt on former President Trump, and also reacting To Trump placing the blame for the attack on President Biden and Vice ...

Day? >> because so much footage was shot, there are tens of thousands of hours held by mgm that owns mark burnett's company and they are not going to release those tapes. they have legal reasons why they cannot do so. where i came out there's a great deal of trump saying awful things about women, which he did on the show. is there anything that rises to the level of the "access hollywood" tape, i don't know. a lot of speculation about him using the n-word. having talked to a whole bunch of people, i came out believing that tape probably doesn't exist, to people who would know, editors who work...

He's not portrayed as a bad individual. he's portrayed as someone who is tough but he's not necessarily portrayed as someone with a bunch of deep character flaws. nowadays we have so many tv shows you have the anti-hero, where you have their flaws put on display and is actually part of what makes them compelling. do you sense there was any sort of room for having -- when you were interviewing for this piece was there a sense that folks didn't want to have any of his flaws on display, or how did that factor in? >> trump is trump. i think mark burnett saw that and is a magnetic personality, no q...

Career, maybe more or as much as "the apprentice"? >> he had been a celebrity going back to the 1980s. it's the kind of celebrity that he was. i talked to tony schwarz who wrote "the art of the deal" and he said, look, we obviously had a great impact in putting trump on the map but he said i was nothing compared to mark burnett. "the apprentice" really put him into american household and not as the guy who did the cameo and the movie. not as the guy from "home alone" but this executive with great judgment people came to and consulted on important matters. >> what do you think about it, kristen...

Patrick, there's a line in the piece that i was fascinated by. burnett and the producers walked by trump towers and were walking through his offices as they were preparing to try to turn this man into king. they saw chipped chairs, other signs of a business holding on for dear life. we saw chipped furniture, a crumbling empire at every turn. our job was to make it seem otherwise. >> i lived in new york in the 1990s, i remember him being a punch line that you would read on page 6. the point mark burnett found trump, trump was at a low point but they remold him as this