Completely eliminated. >> that is 20 million people who can start getting on with their lives. all of this means people can start finally crawling out from under that mountain of debt, to get on top of their rent and their utilities. to finally think about buying a home or starting a family or starting a business. and by the way, when this happens the whole economy is better off. >> to talk more about biden's student loan relief pant plan, let's turn to mark hogan, a member of the congressional progressive progressive caucus. , kokand thank you for coming back on the show. what are your though...