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African americans are 13 plus percent of the population. but i've got 13 stats in front of me which i can show under representation. >> and that bleeds out. if you're not getting into these high-tech fields, you're not having the income levels, the homeownership levels in the community. one issue you've seen colleges howard university aggressively do is partner with silicon valley and try to get and feed more african-american college students into this industry to set them up for success. listen, african americans have aggressively moved into, you know, the days of segregation into areas like ...

Mark, former new orleans mayor and president and ceo of the national urban league which produced the report and with us is my colleague joy reid, host of a.m. joy, weekend mornings here on msnbc. i often join joy on her show to discuss economic issues. so, i'm glad that you're able to join us to have this one. mark, let me start with you. >> thank you. >> in 2018, while we have to look at the legacy issues african americans face that affect earnings and life expectancy and all that, if we don't confront the major issue, we are tech reliant and prosperity relies on technology, we may not solve ...