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Line. there was a clear disconnect. >> in guatemala, it was numbers. didn't really get that hands-on feeling you can get here. >> to make matters worse, the orders from big box stores were not consistent. >> it was always feast or fam e famine. here's 50,000 units, get them produced, we need them in three weeks. >> then once the orders were filled, you had to sit and wait for the next one. >> you don't hear a peep for a few weeks and you have a whole labor staff sitting around doing nothing, then boom you get hit with another 50,000 units. >> the entire process was hot on sun dog's bottom line...

The other thing that they should be doing is finding strength in numbers. what we have found is when neighborhoods come together, in a dozen or two dozen businesses come together, and create some sort of event, it increases traffic and everybody needs more customers walking through their doors. so increasing traffic is such a vital element to continuing the shop small movement. >> we found that exact same thing on the successful main streets, from the successful main streets across the country. thanks so much for coming on. giving us a recap and congratulations again. >> thank you. continue to...