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About the chances of a presidential interview. he spoke about narrowing the scope of said possible questions tonight on fox news. >> the president has a great desire to come forward and tell the truth if he gets a fair hearing. our job is to make sure he gets a fair hearing, meaning jay sekulow and the raskin people, jane and marty, and me. our job is to make sure that he gets a fair hearing from mueller. now, we're not convinced that he will, but we had the first hopeful communication with them last night, what i think is a result of our saying we put in five letters to them, never gotten a r...

Vi vicious cycle, and obviously that just fuels more paranoia about your colleagues, about who's saying what about you, who's trying to back-stab who, and i think we've seen all that play out more publicly than we've ever seen in any other white house. you don't even see this kind of thing in various congressional offices. it's really amazing the level that this has reached in the west wing. >> two reporters who receive more leaks via text in the course of an average day than most reporters receive in a lifetime in what we call the old days. gentlemen, as always, thank you both for joining us ...

Disrespect to them, but they're eggheads. the smartest people in the justice department -- >> the egg heads you want to be in that job. >> exactly. and they both have come out and said the same thing. that they don't think that a sitting president can be indicted by a special counsel. and i think that is right. i think that's correct. and i think that's also huge in terms of giuliani and frankly the president now being able to decide whether or not the president's going to sit down for this final interview with the special counsel. >> matt, i heard the gentleman who wrote the regs regarding sp...

Environment, brian. i mean they will -- mueller and his team will be respectful. they will be professional. but they will be loaded for bear. they'll have the e-mails. they'll have the documents. they'll have the questions and the answers. and you just can't go in there and sort of dictate the terms of an interview with a set of really aggressive professional prosecutors. i've never had it. i've done it for a long time. it never happens that way. and so they need to be prepared. and the president -- mr. president, you need to prepare for this like no other. this isn't a debate. this is the rea...

Contributor. importantly his brand-new book is called "the soul of america, the battle for our better angels." and we're happy to report it's on a lot of nightside tables across this country tonight. jon, before you even begin, i want to go to a quote from a fellow tennessean, a man whose words, if you were of age during the watergate hearings, most americans were able to quote this passage from memory and are still able today. this is senator howard baker, republican of tennessee. >> my primary thesis is still what did the president know, and when did he know it? >> so, jon, other than rockin...