vienna projections from austria general election coming in now thanks for bringing us up to date max we ll check in with you as the evening progresses many thanks indeed. arab to date now on d.w. news coming up does today s far right scene bear any resemblance to that of the why mara the documentary back to the future of weimar today is next i ll have more news for you at the top of the hour omarion and stan thanks for watching. her 1st clinging lesson. as grand as arrives. joining a regular chain on her journey back to freedom. in our interactive documentary. entering it returns home on t.w. dot com tanks. programmed your. group. out about. the. past and present in the weimar republic the ideology of ethno nationalism was widespread and eventually became the foundation of the nazi regime. d stream right in germany today is clearly drawing upon this old focus ideology this ethno nationalism this was right wing extremists today are stoking fears of immigration and what they call the great replacement because i was cautious you know but replacement is when the majority population the native population is displaced and replaced by a mine. already when the ethnic composition of a population is turned on its head. and once again the new rights ethno nationalist ideas are companied by racism and anti semitism. everyone knows which old parasites were talking about. the new right rejects today s germany and believes the time is right for a national transformation by their glauber there s a belief i think it s a delusional one that the time has come to overthrow the system they hate to overthrow democracy to its own corner. what does the germany of today have to do with the via our republic of nearly a century ago what do they have in common what parallels can we draw to a time just before the nazi regime seized power sweeping away hope freedom and peace. is. a simple and catchy slogan but when is not weimar that s a trivialization of history historical constellations don t repeat themselves in this one to one kind of a way we go the slogan also offers a kind of false reassurance it implies we don t need to give much thought to anti democratic developments that might be on the way suggests that this comparison is meaningless but i believe that some of what s happening now requires us to do exactly that to undertake this comparison the same kind of assault on democracy that happened in the weimar republic is being revived in a big way. tuloy if. history might not repeat itself but we can still learn from it students at a high school in cologne are rehearsing a play about holocaust survivor to mark dr who s who lost much of her family in the nazi concentration camps. working with germany s association for information and counseling for the survivors of nazi persecution they want to show how her story is still relevant to the present day. in. one of the weeding and emits a strict math by performing this piece we might be able to get people interested in the whole issue again plus trying to hide the past is important we can learn from it so that we don t make the same mistakes of what we don t know where the next where 1st off in school you notice the jokes about jews have become funny again those kinds of jokes are acceptable again it s good. to ma dr who is has also observed the reemergence of racism and anti-semitism and believes that something needs to be done now to counter the trend exactly that you once said remembering isn t enough we have to act what if that doesn t happen or sliver that would be bad then it will grow we have to keep repeating this message day in and day out much some people may say we don t want this we don t want to hear this anymore it s over but you have to remember without remembrance there is no future who i heard when in 1929 during the weimar republic 11 years after the end of the 1st world war. i germany had been a democracy for 10 years but now its enemies were circling rallying on the streets and even in parliament. was even more going and we have seen that this new german parliamentary and party system is hypocritical and socially corrupt i just think it is an enemy of our fatherland i. once was fired. up but who can back was chairman of the german national people s party and a leader of the right. the. da much more to get at the time political parties in the weimar republic were under attack there was a widespread feeling that germans didn t need multiple political parties all they needed was a single true representative of the people that a strong leader a strong single party just. that s what we re seeing again today for the populist the radical right are saying we are the true people we represent the people everyone else is being manipulated and is acting against the people s interests and does because you block. the major parties have been preying on the state and turned the government of our nation and people into an arena for ideological experiments the f.t. s our country s last chance to evolve in the right direction otherwise we must prepare to fight. one day is called bits as leader of the f.t. and brandenburg and has extensive contacts with neo nazi youth organizations the party is putting its faith in the younger generations. many in the weimar republic also recognized the importance of youth organizations churches professional associations clubs and political parties all expected the postwar generation to grab the reins and shape the country s future. by the time the nazis had seized power it was not just the hitler youth who had been converted many young people believe that democracy had become obsolete tarnished by the older generation that had led germany into the 1st world war ideas of race and ethnicity had become the hallmarks of national unity the individual was nothing but the people everything their bond to blood and soil was to be purged of alien elements leaving behind only the pure body of the people. who did use the word as they could be no contradictions within the supposedly biologically p.o. national community the body of the people it couldn t countenance any form of plurality conflicts of interest competing interests have to be cautious with all of these things that we now accept as part of modern math society where rejected as fundamentally hostile 5. germany s student fraternities were part of this youth movement by 90. 24 their writings were drawing on these ideas. the ethnic nation as the source of political action every citizen is obligated to act in the national interest their actions must be guided only by the desire to preserve and promote the ethnic lifeway of our people. want to be in it at all it s the traditions of the german fraternity it s also true on the ethno nationalist and anti semitic ideologies of 1920 s. and thirty s that has now fraternities serve as a breeding ground for radical right wing parties and of think tanks and for the whole right wing operator. the german fraternities are still the elite schools of germany s extreme right their traditions are unchanged. but how much of this ethno nationalist ideology still remains. we meet the fraternity spokesman philip stein and hala. what i want is for peoples and populations to preserve their relative homogeneity their traditions. how is that different from nazi racial theory because well racial theory is based on something very different ethnicity doesn t mean everyone is blonde everyone has beautiful straight teeth or a particular shape of skull people is made up of a variety of qualities that have evolved organically over the centuries and i m asking about this tradition of racial theory because it also involved this fear of intermingling. well as i ve explained is that a kinship and identity along with language and religious confession which are some of the things that define a nation. and of course kinship in identity include some things that have nothing to do with racial theory but just with forms of expression with human forms. form as a this is like what. well take a look around this. it s pretty easy for me to see that you re a german or european this. of one so it s pretty clear that certain physical characteristics define a people at least most of what i would call a people that s actually a pretty ordinary fact. but that s a racist or racial point of view. why racial. i don t want to somehow define people by the shape of their skulls or the kind of crazy stuff that the national socialists propagated but that s not it just goes without saying that certain characteristics are what define the identity of a people so where are these ideas coming from is this excess tends to visit existential racist motive force has been part of radical right wing ideology for some 200 years but it s constantly finding new language and new terminology for its ideas like substituting the word race with words like culture or identity because they want society to be homogenously along ethnic lines if you want to change the things that define germany as a state today many people who are obviously german citizens are not perceived as germans through the prism of ethno nationalism that s what they want to excess. to monteith who has witnessed how racism and anti-semitism gave rise to segregation persecution and murder. she and her family lived in the lithuanian capital of vilnius. in 1941 when she was 3 years old the german army occupied the city her mother hid her but then she and her parents were rounded up and sent to the city s jewish ghetto. one day her father was taken away and shot not long afterwards tamara and her mother were put on a train to a death camp. along the way the train made a brief stop her mother saw a chance to escape. as if by a miracle they got away unnoticed and went underground for years and survived. to mark dreyfus has been living in cologne for many years today she feels that she s witnessing a revival of the past a resurgent racism and hostility towards immigrants nourished by the very same ideology she feels an obligation to tell her story educate people and warn them. not show news is in my face is probably to stay here and do what i do i mean this is like a drop of water on a hot stone that many trucks can make stone melt and i hope our collective lot of drops in my time and it s not for me is insists. law. law. today nationalism has returned to germany streets under the guise of a right wing protest movement. fears of a nation under threat of national decline are being whipped up to justify the anger . of the smell of decay from a dying democracy is wafting through the country in this situation dear friends and i say this is a citizen loyal to the state oh duty is not to remain calm a civic duty is one of her. defiance and civil disobedience we must take out country but foolish. enough to speed up that s backed by both. killing and shade and to bend. to you to hope i don t know your doctorate. in. the radical right both in the 1920 s. and today it regards liberal democracy as a process of decline and decay and it supposedly leads to crime and to infiltration by foreigners and other disasters. this view doesn t have much to do with reality it s a tool. in the weimar republic monarchists and supporters of a one party system saw parliament and the democratic party as the enemy. the social democrats with their ideas of liberalism or especially hated the communists were agitating from the left the d.m.v. p. and increasingly the nazi party from the right. they called for parliament and political parties to be abolished. thing but i don t think i m. right then he did not write you but i know. that. he. i think i do you don t i m going to go i think you have that at a time. today the f.d.a. is trying to claim the mantle of savior. they see the government and other political parties as enemies of the people. the i pad thai traditional political parties are trapped in their multicultural republican make tricks and musty outdated cowardly good the refined adeeb and discounts of invasive dear friends the chancellor wants to create a fait accompli before she resigns even it in bit further she wants to make the great replacement irreversible don t ask me what her motives are for some reason she has something against the german people and how see address skiing the stars are for. biscuit and all i want to create a different country a country without immigrant families a country without a liberal culture and a cosmopolitan globalized economy that essentially talking about a form of national socialism is not so 9 total distance. in the german parliament the bundestag the f.t. serves as a catch all for the far right that survives by whipping up discontent and anger. many of the voters have lost faith in the state and political system. only one to 4 percent of voters from the mainstream established parties say they re dissatisfied with democracy in germany but among left wing voters that figure is 31 percent among a voters 41 percent. this dissatisfaction with the democratic system paired with no nationalism has also drawn dreams of middle class voters were many of whom share these views. for even before the f.d.a. was founded as a certain segment in german society held much more conservative. not to say right wing and even racist views that were reflected in anglo-american was christian democratic party it was but there was no one on the stage who said this openly or with an air of credibility and legitimacy. and feel if he has succeeded in doing just that off it. and now racist values and world views are not just being fought but openly expressed. there is a golf course in the right wing extremist believes also exist in the center of society that we like to think of as a kind of bastion a line of defense and we tend to think of right wing extremism as taking place on the political fray on something that you can get back on to control because it s just an isolated minority but that s not really true me these attitudes are widespread you ll find many segments of society. 2 right wing extremism can persist over generations this is shown by a study conducted by the university of munich which examined rhineland. and gotten back to federal states where immigration has been less of a factor. they found that areas that voted for the nazis in 1933 shown here in red gave a larger share of their vote to the a.f.p. in the 2017 parliamentary elections shown here in blue. its interest on a convair are astonishing continue to use an electoral behaviors that go back to the time of national socialism does this shows us that the political culture or the radical right wing attitudes don t suddenly disappear or change overnight there s continuity these attitudes are passed down in families and communities. the new far right and the cut their teeth on the. streets this is where they recruit their followers. just like the nazis in the weimar republic at 1st the nazis were irrelevant fringe movement but they were determined to become a visible force and to grow. not you know jealous was. it because it is just it s. easy to see to give up. then. it s been. the focus is to avoid be trading its stated mission the f.t. has to remain a movement in other words it always has to be visible on the streets and it needs to maintain close contacts with other affiliated movements. this is just a visible force on the streets in protests is essential to radical tendencies and it makes a statement here we are join us follow us we re in the fang god and ready to fight for one fears and you know one come for that s what. this tactic was also deployed in the weimar republic fiery rhetoric soon turned into violence street brawls became the order of the day. the radicals set out to destabilize the state and demonstrate its powerlessness 931 saw the nazis committing their 1st anti semitic attacks hunting down jews on one of the berlin s main shopping boulevards. september 28th cabinets open hostility on the streets attacks on journalists 100000 people perceived as foreigners or migrants. but the racism was openly flaunted and hatred spilled into violence. this tendency towards violence isn t just an abstract idea. it s being acted upon i think we lost sight of the fact that we ve had a militant subculture with an affinity for terrorism in the scene for a long time they ve been waiting in the wings for the right moment to put their violence into action on the streets so that. the far left shares those tendencies as was on evidence at the g 20 summit in hamburg 2 years ago they also resorted to violence but there is a crucial difference. to my good to study the radical left is not trying to overthrow democracy but to overthrow capitalism the radical right who wants to do away with democracy and human rights this difference is also apparent in their behavior on the streets as a rule the left wing violence is directed primarily against objects and signifiers of the state even the rightwing violence also targets the state but it also tends to hunt down minorities and attack people not objects of direct mention unquote of . the f.t. and their allies are still a minority but they claim to represent a silent majority. they openly express racial ideologies and notions of ethnic purity. they themselves admit that the recent arrival of refugees in germany was a boon to their movement. causing because of course the great migration crisis that started in 2015 has been a kind of catalyst for patriotic or right wing ideas or whatever it is but i don t think anyone would deny that there was a moment when these opinions were able to gain momentum when what people were willing to say out loud really expanded all of this you can talk about things now that were more difficult a few years ago the finding young shmuley go on. this list of the limits of what can be said openly and in a public without immediate sanction have shifted substantially in germany over the last few years what i think everyone agrees on that this is it s worrying that radical slow. including a kind of rhetorical violence are now not just limited to social media where it s long been a real problem. now it s left the digital world and gone analog into the public sphere. because of. the far right groups such as biggie and the identity movement are moving on to germany s streets of the. their stats. the identity and movement may be a throwback but as this promotional video shows it presents itself as hip young and forward thinking like their other allies on the far right they want to draw young people into the movement the identity of are skilled at attracting attention like at this 2016 protest at the brandenburg gate in berlin and their campaign on the french alps for a mediterranean mission to keep refugees out rather than to rescue them. has mounted campaigns in austria germany and across europe proclaiming the supposed downfall of society he also plays down the crimes committed by the nazis claiming that traditional democratic politicians have become mired in what he calls a cult of guild. leader has for years this elite has been searching for a sword to fall on to now they found one the migration crisis this is a society a generation of death and voluntary liquidation and the identity want to be a force of life so we say this to that elite you re welcome to sacrifice yourselves to destroy yourselves with your cult of guilt that s your right but you don t have the right to drag the rest of us into this country thank the identity movement is being monitored as an extremist organization by germany s security services the identity and say they want to protect the purity of supposedly hamachi. ethnic groups the great replacement is its unifying narrative features prominently in a manifesto by one of the movement s leaders the ethnic german population will be displaced in the coming decades replaced by migrants who do not share our culture the 21st century is about nothing less than the survival of our people and the whole of europe. before. the idea that the population will be supplanted that they ll be something like a great replacement as the new right calls it is widespread and counting this is a core element of a new radical right wing ideology. it s a response to migration the globalization of the population and demographic change . alexander who calls himself. is the leader of the identity movement in my pic his aim is to convince young people that the great replacement is a real he and philip tyler run the right wing you tube channel allowed good dr. thinking out loud. it s of the middle of i i now everyone should have realised that anyone who doesn t follow the green eco mainstream or who is not interested in immigration is immediately branded a nazi or trying to marginalize us and i m trying. the great replacement i ve seen that a lot in your literature what is it. is the great replacement is when the majority of the native population is displaced and replaced by others. when the populations ethnic composition is up ended. so if we take germany as a concrete example then the great replacement would mean that people born and bred in frankfurt would no longer be the majority in their own city. and who decides who s german and who isn t. that s a it s not a decision and if there is no decision and no authority can make 100 it s a process which has what you have if they don t but you have decided who s german and who isn t. going to land in frankfurt has lots of immigrants you say no they re not german and we don t want to live this way. yes we don t want germans to become a minority in their own country. so people whose families came here from somewhere else aren t germans and ari what people with a migration background aren t germans is come think of us in a way it depends on exactly where they came from and your definition of what is a german and yes if. i were to go also but the vast majority of people with migrant backgrounds in germany are germans. the military german citizens but can a piece of paper be the final word in defining who is a german and who isn t. the swedish police. saying violates our concept of citizenship and the values of our constitution when they say that people are not german because of their heritage that s a modern form of racism a german is a person who is a german citizen and that s what the new right is unwilling to accept. the ideology of the great replacement unites right wing extremists around the world. on march 15th 2019 in christchurch new zealand a right wing extremist shot dead 50 people who were praying into mosques. the killer filmed his rampage and streamed it live on the internet harvesting clicks and likes from right wing extremists. before the attack britain tyrant penned a manifesto claiming that the white race in western countries was being replaced because of its lower birth rate it was titled the great replacement the same ideology that underlies the identity movement. and there was also a direct connection to martin s on the mouthpiece of the identity ariens. davy. martin selma was forced to admit that terence had donated 1500 euros to his private account a year before the attack. the terrorists donation to the identity movement demonstrates ideological sympathy or proximity also said that he donated to other nationalist movements and this is a very clear indication that the christ church killer was a fan of the i tend to tarry a movement i m fan. of the people. the identity movement has set up what it calls a patriotic bar behind the barred windows of this house and hala. several far right activists are holding a meeting here. we are allowed inside but aren t allowed to ask any questions. alex monkee says the killer s donation to mountains el know was no big deal. those are the you know the biggest the fuss is that this whole thing is a farce and it s this is it could happen to anyone and you talk tomorrow someone could throw 10 euros into your mailbox. just saying truth this is just wasn t it just you know. was this just a random donation unsolicited and unwanted. it turns out that zelma replied to brandon terrance email. i want to thank you personally for your incredible donation . this is my personal email address if you want you can contact me here. mountains on that continues to paint himself as the victim. but he doesn t seem to reject violence in principle only for strategic reasons if i ve i have nonviolence in activism does not mean being defenseless in my opinion it should be coupled with a genuine willingness to fight we do that as a conscious decision for met a political and strategic reasons we know it s better and more effective of us. so avoiding violence may only be a temporary tactic. and event attended by numerous the officials the speakers openly profess the doctrine of the great replacement. born dislike the federal government wants us to work for the immigrants so that they can keep bearing children and complete the population exchange i was towers for and these are these conquerors disguised as refugees just want to prey on. society split on. people and deeply divided and now the declining birthrate and mass immigration is posing a fundamental threat to their existence is the this is. the idea of an existential threat to the german people was also put forth by nazis during the weimar republic. hitler propagated his racial ideology early on directing it against anyone he saw as alien to the german nation. but at that time many people didn t see the danger in it. going to get major mention. got good yet i would doubt that even you know turned out to. 0 in either body night . out of bed at night but even in that i. thought about. the nazi ideology this supposed body of the nation was made up only of what they called arion germans jews didn t belong even if their families had been in germany for generations. that the. even. if a muslim in this country doesn t like our no no no no and if a muslim in this country does not want to accept our no. than their friends. he is free to roll up his prayer rug. under his arm and leave the country. i. thank you. he s a fine birders and both then and now the main enemy under this ideology use who are perceived as powerful as infiltrators that hasn t changed continent but migrants muslims are also painted with the same brush painted as unworthy impure and violent blight on the german people dear. good. german fraternity spokesman philip stein has his office on the 1st floor of the same house and holler where the identity movement has its bar. he also says that the german people will be displaced by immigration. then slide if you if 23 or 4000000 people immigrate and live in germany for many many decades then of course a shift in the social majorities will at some point become a possibility. just take a look at demographics or to sticks you don t have to be right or left wing it s simply a fact that the demographic trend here in germany is basically happening to the detriment of the majority population of. them has been focused on this focus because it so the descendants of people who live here now no matter how long they live here will always be immigrants and not germans or it isn t their citizens but not part of our people. there the trick behind this is to present demographic change as a larger threat that s then dressed up in racist garb and there s no way to come up with the idea of a great replacement unless you re thinking in terms of ethnicity and employing racist categories yet the students at the lessing high school in cologne will soon be performing their play. is that for them being a migrant or not is nothing special. whose only german 3 and who isn t everybody else they don t see that as a problem to the contrary. visit. we all came from somewhere else settled here and then built up our country. if you look at it that way we re all strangers here highest none of us saw the real true natives and if it doesn t that s something that everyone has to decide for themselves whether they see themselves as german or not but it s not relevant to whether you belong or not. it s very sad people the fact that these prejudices still exist is really a pity and we should be past that in the 21st century but europe is not past that here in austria far right parties have gained an ever larger following in recent years in may 2900 points christian staffa had to step down as vice chancellor and leader of the right wing populist freedom party after a scandal that exposed underhanded political practices and their plan to limit the independence of the media. in hungary this process is well underway the right wing populist feeders party under viktor orbán has virtually abolished the free press t.v. stations with its own people and closed down entire editorial offices and he s manipulating the media for his electoral campaigns. in italy the far right lake and north but by anti immigrant firebrand my tale salvini have a powerful influence on policy. there isolationist policies are one reason why thousands of refugees have drowned in the mediterranean. sea a.f.d. on the campaign trail for the european elections. leader york morton met with other european far right leaders to found a radical pan-european alliance. the right is on the rise throughout europe. so many. if you compare european countries you can see the far right is quickly gaining ground in many of them. in some rightwing extremist and now even parts of. governing coalitions at the national level and i think. after the end of the cold war right wing populist and far right parties played very little role in europe only reaching the 10 percent threshold in a few countries at the turn of the millennium. but in 2019 far right parties have become a force to be reckoned with in some countries they ve even been part of the government . a similar development took place after the 1st world war which had led to the emergence of a number of democracies in europe. 20 years later most of them had reverted to authoritarian systems or dictatorships. the weimar republic resisted this tendency of the nazis were biding their time waiting for a chance to overthrow democracy and establish a totalitarian regime. for a while the economy was on the upswing inflation was falling and unemployment was lower than it had been in years. in october $929.00 the global economic crisis brought that to a crashing halt. until then the nazis had been a fringe party then unemployment exploded bringing with it widespread poverty. the voters blocked to the nazis last with little social security many germans lost their homes and went hungry. the nazis seized on this widespread discontent and won the protest vote from 194933 the nazis had made some significant electoral gains but these did not come at the expense of the other political parties. instead voter turnout was rising rapidly. and it appears that many people who marked their ballot for the nazis had previously been nonvoters. the n.s.t. a.p. the nazi party was what they called a people s party the party of protest it was the only party that was affective across the weimar republic of the f.t. is also a mixture of socially established voters from the center who have drifted to the right and new voters protest voters who see it as a vehicle to express their dissatisfaction with reporters. and we will keep this revolution going until politics in this country has been reversed by 180 degrees. 2 the a.f.d. also capitalizes on protest and it attracts people who didn t vote before almost a quarter of the of the supporters were previously nonvoters there s a clear parallel to the former nazi party. was in pretty good order this also implies that not all nazi voters around 1932 had suddenly become convinced racists and anti semites and national socialists the nazis were harvesting the protest vote and the f.t. is doing that too it s. even in these economically stable times the f.t. has succeeded in sparking protests on the streets. unemployment in germany is low and the economy seemingly robust but the danger is still there. german society is becoming increasingly fragmented isn t kind of we re not a society that s getting poorer we re a society that s getting richer anyone can inferi grow wealthy but the up a 60 percent in our society keep getting richer while the lower 40 percent haven t made any gains in the last 15 years and that s a problem even with the expansion of opportunity social inequality has grown. this 40 percent is 32000000 people in germany people who ve seen no economic gains or who have even lost ground the state of affairs. has become a threat to social stability what would happen in the event of a new global economic crisis if germany experienced runaway inflation and mass unemployment. if the new radical right is pursuing a policy of ratcheting up social tensions they want to push it to the point where tensions will erupt and destroy liberal democracy. the republic went from a peaceful democracy to a brutal dictatorship in just 14 years. in attendance the trend is that we re very gradually seeing a return to those things social polarization right wing extremism the rise of an anti democratic party the rise of right wing violence of a state and a government that no longer seem to be able to cope with a situation. where all of those elements existed in the weimar republic we re not repeating that history we must draw on our knowledge of what happened to the weimar republic to make sure it doesn t happen again. this week after. days ago. climate change has just presented its report on the condition. will see what it says. 30 minutes to dublin. where. your family scattered across the globe. to. turn back to the roots the lead the charge family from somalia live around the world. one of them needed urgent assistance a. family starts october any on. 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football paid homage to its heroes and rupp pino stole the show stay reminder of our top stories this hour britain s supreme court is set to rule on whether prime minister boris johnson overstepped his powers by suspending parliament many lawmakers say johnson s move was a tactical push to get his plans for a no deal through. and we ll have the latest from london on that for now though for me brian thomas i m saying thank you and you can watch. her 1st day at school. her 1st clinging lesson. as grandma was arrives. to join the reckoning on her journey back to freedom. in our interactive documentary tour of interacting returns home on d w dot com american tanks. program your family good. out about the. past and present in the weimar republic the ideology of ethno nationalism was widespread and eventually became the foundation of the nazi regime. d stream right in germany today is clearly drawing upon this old focus ideology this ethno nationalism this was right wing extremists today are stoking fears of immigration and what they call the great replacement it was always toasts in rome for great replacement is when the majority population the native population is displaced and replaced by a minority when the ethnic composition of a population is turned on its head all. at once again. the new rides ethno nationalist ideas are companied by racism and anti-semitism. everyone knows which old parasites were talking about. the new right rejects today s germany and believes the time is ripe for a national transformation by their glauber there s a belief i think it s a delusional $11.00 that the time has come to overthrow the system they hate to overthrow democracy to its own corner. what does the germany of today have to do with the via our republic of nearly a century ago what do they have in common what parallels can we draw to a time just before the nazi regime seized power sweeping away freedom and peace. that s the simple and catchy slogan bolin is not weimar that s a trivialization of history historical constellations don t repeat themselves in this $1.00 to $1.00 kind of a way we go the slogan also offers a kind of false reassurance it implies we don t need to give much thought to anti democratic developments that might be on the way suggests that this comparison is meaningless but i believe that some of what s happening now requires us to do exactly that to undertake this comparison the same kind of assault on democracy that happened in the weimar republic is being revived in a big way you know of course poorly or if. history might not repeat itself but we can still learn from it. students at a high school in cologne are rehearsing a play about holocaust survivor to mark dr who s who lost much of her family in the nazi concentration camps. working with germany s association for information and counseling for the survivors of nazi persecution they want to show how her story is still relevant to the present day. one of the we re doing and image it s a strict math by performing this piece we might be able to get people interested in the whole issue again us flag on how the past is important we can learn from it so that we don t make the same mistakes but we don t know where the next reference of in school you noticed the jokes about jews have become funny again those kinds of jokes are acceptable again it s good. to ma dr who is has also observed the reemergence of racism and anti-semitism and believes that something needs to be done now to counter the trend exactly that you once said remembering isn t enough we have to act what if that doesn t happen or sliver that would be bad then it will grow worse and thus we have to keep repeating this message day in and day out much some people may say we don t want this we don t want to hear this anymore it s over but you have to remember without remembrance there is no future who i burned when in 1929 during the weimar republic 11 years after the end of the 1st world war. germany had been a democracy for 10 years but now its enemies were circling rallying on the streets and even in parliament. was even more open and we have seen that this new german parliamentary and party system is hypocritical and socially corrupt i just think it is an enemy of our fatherland . onto us 5. but who can back was chairman of the german national people s party and a leader of the right. the. watergate at the time political parties in a weimar republic were under attack there was a widespread feeling that germans didn t need multiple political parties all they needed was a single true representative of the people a strong leader a strong single party just. that s what we re seeing again today for the populist all radical right of saying we are the true people we represent the people everyone else is being manipulated and is acting against the people s interests and does because you block the time the major parties have been preying on the state and turn the government of our nation and people into an arena for ideological experiments the a.f.d. is our country s last chance to evolve in the right direction otherwise we must prepare to fight. one day a skull bits as leader of the f.t. and brandenburg and has extensive contacts with neo nazi youth organizations the party is putting its faith in the younger generations. many in the weimar republic also recognized the importance of youth organizations churches professional associations courts clubs and political parties all expected the postwar generation to grab the reins and shape the country s future. by the time the nazis had seized power it was not just the hitler youth who had been converted many young people believe that democracy had become obsolete tarnished by the older generation that had led germany into the 1st world war ideas of race and ethnicity had become the hallmark of national unity the individual was nothing the people everything their bond to blood and soil was to be purged of alien elements leaving behind only the pure body of the people. who introduced the world as they could be no contradictions within the supposedly biologically pure national community the body of the people it couldn t countenance any form of plurality conflicts of interest competing interests had to be cornish to all of these things that we now accept as part of modern math society where rejected as fundamentally hostile 5 clues. germany s student fraternities were part of this youth movement by 90. 24 their writings were drawing on these ideas. the ethnic nation as the source of political action every citizen is obligated to act in the national interest their actions must be guided only by the desire to preserve and promote the ethnic lifeway of our people. took me out at all it s the traditions of the german fraternity it s also true on the ethno nationalist and anti semitic ideologies of the 1920 s. and thirty s that has now fraternities serve as a breeding ground for radical right wing parties and think tanks and for the whole right wing operator. the german fraternities are still the elite schools of germany s extreme right their traditions are unchanged. but how much of this ethno nationalist ideology still remains. we meet the fraternity spokesman philip stein and hala. what i want is for peoples and populations to preserve their relative homogeneity their traditions. how is that different from nazi racial theory. well racial theory is based on something very different ethnicity doesn t mean everyone is blonde everyone has beautiful straight teeth or a particular shape of skull people is made up of a variety of qualities that have evolved organically over the centuries and i m asking about this tradition of racial theory because it also involved this fear of intermingling. well as i ve explained it s also for the kinship and identity along with language and religious confession which are some of the things that define a nation. and of course kinship in identity include some things that have nothing to do with racial theory but just with forms of expression with human forms. form as a this is like what. take a look around this. it s pretty easy for me to see that you re a german or european. of one so it s pretty clear that certain physical characteristics define a people. at least most of what i would call people that s actually a pretty ordinary fact. but that s a racist or racial point of view. why racial. i don t want to somehow define people by the shape of their skulls or the kind of crazy stuff that the national socialists propagated but that s not it just goes without saying that certain characteristics are what define the identity of a people. so where are these ideas coming from is this existence this is an existential racist motive force has been part of radical right wing ideology for some 200 years and it s constantly finding new language and new terminology for its ideas like substituting the word race with words like culture or identity because they want society to be homogenous along ethnic lines you want to change the things that define germany as a state today many people who are obviously german citizens are not perceived as germans through the prism of ethno nationalism that s what they want to excess. tomato i witnessed how racism and anti-semitism gave rise to segregation persecution and murder. she and her family lived in the lithuanian capital of vilnius. in 1041 when she was 3 years old the german army occupied the city her mother hid her but then she and her parents were rounded up and sent to the city s jewish ghetto. one day her father was taken away and shot not long afterwards tamara and her mother were put on a train to a death camp. along the way the train made a brief stop her mother saw a chance to escape. as if by a miracle they got away unnoticed and went underground for years and survived. to mark dr who s has been living in cologne for many years today she feels that she s witnessing a revival of the past a resurgent racism and hostility towards immigrants nourished by the very same ideology she feels an obligation to tell her story educate people and warn them. to sanya she s in my face is probably to stay here and do what i do i mean this is like a drop of water on a hot stone that many trucks can make stone melt and i hope i ve collected a lot of drops in my time and. insists. thought am not i am today nationalism has returned to germany streets under the guise of a right wing protest movement. fears of a nation under threat of national decline are being whipped up to justify the anger . of the smell of decay from a dying democracy is wafting through the country in this situation dear friends and i say this is a citizen loyal to the state oh duty is not to remain calm a civic duty is one of her. rage anger defiance and civil disobedience we must take out country back. you know. that s backed by both. giving the finger and shape and to bend in the midst of you you don t hope i don t know your doctrine. and you know. the radical right both in the 1920 s. and today it regards liberal democracy as a process of decline and decay it s supposedly leads to crime and to infiltration by foreigners and other disasters. this view doesn t have much to do with reality. in the weimar republic monarchists and supporters of a one party system saw parliament and the democratic parties as the enemy. the social democrats with their ideas of liberalism or especially hated the communists were agitating from the left the d.m.v. peny and increasingly the nazi party from the right. they called for parliament and political parties to be abolished. thing but i don t think i m. right that many did not write you but i know. that. i m not going to leave. today the f.d.a. is trying to claim the mantle of savior. they see the government and other political parties as enemies of the people. the i part time traditional political parties are trapped in their multicultural republican matrix and musty outdated cowardly good even trying to debug this council of invaders. dear friends the chancellor wants to create a fait accompli before she resigns even in before she wants to make the great replacement irreversible don t ask me what her motives are for some reason she has something against the german people and how to see address skiing the storage of short. biscuit in and out i don t want to create a different country a country without immigrant families a country without a liberal culture and a cosmopolitan a globalised economy that essentially talking about a form of national socialism is not synonymous with some distance. in the german parliament the bundestag the f.t. serves as a catch all for the far right that survives by whipping up discontent and anger. many of the voters have lost faith in the state and political system. only one to 4 percent of voters from the mainstream established parties say they re dissatisfied with democracy in germany but among left wing voters that figure is 31 percent among a of the voters 41 percent. this dissatisfaction with the democratic system paired with ethno nationalism has also drawn dreams of middle class voters many of whom share these views. for even before the f.d.a. was founded it is a certain segment in german society held much more conservative if not to say rightwing and even racist views that were reflected in uncle america s christian democratic party it was but there was no one on the stage who said this openly or with an air of credibility and legitimacy and that and feel if he has succeeded in doing just that out there and now racist values and world views and not just being forceful but openly expressed even if men are not on the there s a question that i ve often. rightwing extremist beliefs also exist in the center of society that we like to think of as a kind of bastia a line of defense and we tend to think of right wing extremism as taking place on the political fray on something that you can get back on the control because it s just an isolated minority but that s not really true me these attitudes are widespread and you ll find them as many segments of society. 2 right wing extremism can persist over generations this is shown by a study conducted by the university of munich which examined rhineland. and pardon board and back to federal states where immigration has been less of a factor. they found that areas that voted for the nazis in 1933 shown here in red gave a larger share of their vote to the in the 2017 parliamentary elections shown here in blue. its interest on a conveyor astonishing continue to use an electoral behaviors that go back to the time of national socialism does this shows us that the political culture or the radical right wing attitudes don t suddenly disappear or change overnight that s continuity these attitudes are passed down in families and communities. of. the new far right and the cut their teeth on the streets this is where they recruit their followers. just like the nazis in the weimar republic at 1st the nazis were irrelevant fringe movement but they were determined to become a visible force and to grow. out of it infinity just bought it. and it would be. easy to feed it is it. any less. each bend in. the face to avoid be training at stated mission the f.t. has to remain a movement in other words it always has to be visible on the streets and it needs to maintain close contacts with other affiliated movements. this is just being a visible force on the streets in protests is essential to radical tendencies and it makes a statement here we are join us follow us we re in the vanguard and ready to fight for even one visit in one come for that s what. this tactic was also deployed in the weimar republic fiery rhetoric soon turned into violence street brawls became the order of the day. the radicals set out to destabilize the state and demonstrate its powerlessness 931 saw the nazis committing their 1st anti semitic attacks hunting down jews on one of the berlin s main shopping boulevards. september 28th cabinets open hostility on the streets attacks on journalists to hunt down people perceived as foreigners or migrants. but the racism was openly flaunted and hatred spilled into violence i gather that. this tendency towards violence isn t just an abstract idea it s being acted upon i think we ve lost sight of the fact that we ve had a militant subculture with an affinity for terrorism in the scene for a long time they ve been waiting in the wings for the right moment to put their violence into action on the streets so that. the far left shares those tendencies as was on evidence at the g 20 summit in hamburg 2 years ago they also resorted to violence but there is a crucial difference. to my give the study. the radical left isn t trying to overthrow democracy but to overthrow capitalism the radical right who wants to do away with democracy and human rights this difference is also apparent in their behavior on the streets as a rule the left wing violence is directed primarily against objects and signifiers of the state even the rightwing violence also targets the state but it also tends to hunt down minorities and attack people not objects you mention i m quite was 3 am was the f.t. and their allies are still a minority but they claim to represent a silent majority. they openly express racial ideologies and notions of ethnic purity. they themselves admit that the recent arrival of refugees in germany was a boon to their movement. cause in the cartoons of course the great migration crisis that started in 2015 has been a kind of catalyst for patriotic or right wing ideas or whatever it is but i don t think anyone would deny that there was a moment when these opinions were able to gain momentum when what people were willing to say out loud really expanded all of the stock you can talk about things now that were more difficult a few years ago the finding young should really go on. this list of the limits of what can be said openly and in public without immediate sanction have shifted substantially in germany over the last few years and i think everyone agrees on that this is it s worrying that radical slogans including a kind of rhetorical violence are now not just limited to social media where it s long been a real problem when the view now it s left the digital world and gone analog into the public sphere. because i couldn t far right groups such as big and the identity tarion movement are moving on to germany s streets of the. herds. yes. the identity movement may be a throwback but as this promotional video shows it presents itself as hip young and forward thinking like their other allies on the far right they want to draw young people into the movement the identity are skilled at attracting attention like at this 2016 protest at the brandenburg gate in berlin and their campaign on the french alps for a mediterranean mission to keep refugees out rather than to rescue them. has mounted campaigns in austria germany and across europe proclaiming the supposed downfall of society he also plays down the crimes committed by the nazis claiming that traditional democratic politicians have become mired in what he calls a cult of guilt. have for years this elite has been searching for a sword to fall on to now they found the migration crisis this is a society a generation death and voluntary liquidation the identity want to be a force of life so we say this to that elite you re welcome to sacrifice yourselves to destroy yourselves with your cult of guilt that s your right but you don t have the right to drag the rest of us into this thanks the identity movement is being monitored as an extremist organization by germany s security services the identity and say they want to protect the purity of supposedly homogenous ethnic groups the great replacement is its unifying narrative features prominently in a manifesto by one of the movement s leaders the ethnic german population will be displaced in the coming decades replaced by migrants who do not share our culture the 21st century is about nothing less than the survival of our people and the whole of europe. before. the idea that the population will be supplanted something like a. great replacement as the new right calls it is widespread this is and counting this is a core element of a new radical right wing ideology. it s a response to migration the globalization of the population and demographic change before going to more coffee as. alexander who calls himself. is the leader of the identity and movement in leipsic his aim is to convince young people that the great replacement is real. he and philip tyler run the right wing you tube channel allowed get docked. thinking out loud. it s of the middle of i mean by now everyone should have realised that anyone who doesn t follow the green eco mainstream or who is not interested in immigration is immediately branded a nazi if they re trying to marginalize us who and i m trying. the great replacement i ve seen that a lot in your literature what is it. is the great replacement is when the majority of the native population is displaced and replaced by others. when the populations ethnic composition is up ended as well so if we take germany as a concrete example then the great replacement would mean that people born and bred in frankfurt would no longer be the majority in their own city. and who decides who s german and who isn t this it s not a decision if there is no decision and no authority can make 100 it s a process. but you have decided who s german and who isn t. because if frankfurt has lots of immigrants you say no they re not german and we don t want to live this way. yes we don t want germans to become a minority in their own country. so people whose families came here from somewhere else aren t germans sorry what then some people with a migration background aren t germans in a way it depends on exactly where they came from and your definition of what is a german yes if you. don t already go also but the vast majority of people with migrant backgrounds in germany are germans. and that there are german citizens but can a piece of paper be the final word in defining who is a german and who isn t. if you just placed on saying violates our concept of citizenship and the values of our constitution when they say that people are not german because of their heritage that s a modern form of racism a german is a person who is a german citizen and that s what the new right is unwilling to accept. the ideology of the great replacement unites right wing extremists around the world. on march 15th 2019 in christchurch new zealand a right wing extremist shot dead 50 people who were praying in 2 mosques. the killer filmed his rampage and streamed it live on the internet harvesting clicks and likes from right wing extremists. before the attack britain terence penned a manifesto claiming that the white race in western countries was being replaced because of its lower birth rate it was titled the great replacement the same ideology that underlies the identity movement. and there was also a direct connection to martin s on the mouthpiece of the identity ariens. davy. martin selma was forced to admit that terence had donated 1500 euros to his private account a year before the attack. the terrorists donation to the identity area movement demonstrates ideological sympathy or proximity also said that he donated to other nationalist movements and this is a very clear indication that the christ church killer was a fan of the i tend to tarry a movement i m fan. of the people. the identity movement has set up what it calls a patriotic bar behind the barred windows of this house and hala. several far right activists are holding a meeting here. we are allowed inside but aren t allowed to ask any questions. he says the killers donation to muslims l no was no big deal. though as you think that is the fosses that this whole thing is a farce and it s this this is it could happen to anyone. you talk tomorrow someone could throw 10 euros into your mailbox. just saying the truth of this is this wasn t an issue. was this just a random donation unsolicited and unwanted. it turns out that zelma replied to brandon terrance e-mail. i want to thank you personally for your incredible donation. this is my personal email address if you want you can contact me here. continues to paint himself as the victim. but he doesn t seem to reject violence in principle only for strategic reasons if i do i have nonviolence and activism does not mean being defenseless in my opinion it should be coupled with a genuine willingness to fight and we do that as a conscious decision for met a political and strategic reasons we know what s better and more effective of you. so avoiding violence may only be a temporary tactic. and event attended by numerous if the officials the speakers openly professed the doctrine of the great replacement. he warned us of the year the federal government wants us to work for the immigrants so that they can keep bearing children and complete the population exchange homes almost hours for it and these are these conquerors disguised as refugees just want to prey on. society split on this. is. people are deeply divided and now the declining birth rate and mass immigration is posing a fundamental threats to their existence is is. the idea of an existential threat to the german people was also put forth by nazis during the weimar republic. hitler propagated his racial ideology early on directing it against anyone he saw as alien to the german nation. but at that time many people didn t see the danger in it. and you know he made a mention of. god good night i got up but even you know i try not to but it. oh indeed your body you know i don t think i m out of bed at night but even you know i ve. probably. been nazi ideology this supposed body of the nation was made up only of what they called arion germans jews didn t belong even if their families had been in germany for generations. the reason why. is a muslim in this country doesn t like our no no no no no and if a muslim in this country does not want to accept our no. plan their friends he is free to roll up his prayer rug. under his arm and leave our country. was. thank you. he s a fine birders and both then and now the main enemy under this ideology. who are perceived as powerful as infiltrators that hasn t changed continent but migrants muslims are also painted with the same brush painted as unworthy impure and violent blight on the german people fish dear. good. german fraternity spokesman philip stein has his office on the 1st floor of the same house and holler where the identity movement has its bar. he also says that the german people will be displaced by immigration. then slide life here if 23 or 4000000 people immigrate and live in germany for many many decades then of course a shift in the social majorities will at some point become a possibility. or just take a look at demographics or to sticks you don t have to be right or left wing it s simply a fact that the demographic trend here in germany is basically happening to the detriment of the majority population and. there has been focus on this focus because it so the descendants of people who live here now no matter how long they live here will always be immigrants and not germans in the store it isn t their citizens but not part of our people. there the trick behind this is to present demographic change as a larger threat that s then dressed up in racist garb there s no way to come up with the idea of a great replacement unless you re thinking in terms of ethnicity and employing racist categories yet the students at the lessing high school in cologne will soon be performing their play. is that for them being a migrant or not is nothing special. whose only german 3 and who isn t everybody else they don t see that as a problem to the contrary. visit. we all came from somewhere else settled here and then built up our country and if you look at it that way we re all strangers here none of us saw the real true natives and if it doesn t that s something that everyone has to decide for themselves whether they see themselves as german or not but it s not relevant to whether you belong or not. it s very sad little people the fact that these prejudices still exist is really a pity and we should be past that in the 21st century but europe is not past that here in austria far right parties have gained an ever larger following in recent years in may 2900 points christian staffa had to step down as vice chancellor and leader of the right wing populist freedom party after a scandal that exposed underhanded political practices and their plan to limit the independence of the media. in hungary this process is well underway the right wing populist feet as party under viktor orbán has virtually abolished the free press t.v. stations with its own people and closed down entire editorial offices and he s manipulating the media for his electoral campaigns. in italy the far right league annoyed led by anti immigrant firebrand my tale salvini have a powerful influence on policy. there isolationist policies are one reason why thousands of refugees have drowned in the mediterranean. and the a.f.p. on the campaign trail for the european elections the leader york morton met with other european far right leaders to found a radical pan-european alliance. the right is on the rise throughout europe. so many bleak if you compare european countries you can see the far right is quickly gaining ground in many of them. in some rightwing extremist and now even parts of. governing coalitions at the national level. after the end of the cold war right wing populist and far right parties played very little role in europe only reaching the 10 percent threshold in a few countries at the turn of the millennium. but in 2019 far right parties have become a force to be reckoned with in some countries they ve even been part of the government . a similar development took place after the 1st world war which had led to the emergence of a number of democracies in europe. 20 years later most of them had reverted to authoritarian systems or dictatorships. the weimar republic resisted this tendency of the nazis were biding their time waiting for a chance to overthrow democracy and establish a totalitarian regime. for a while the economy was on the upswing inflation was falling and unemployment was lower than it had been in years. in october $929.00 the global economic crisis brought that to a crashing halt. until then the nazis had been a fringe party then unemployment exploded bringing with it widespread poverty. voters flocked to the nazis. with little social security many germans lost their homes and went hungry. the nazis seized on this widespread discontent and won the protest vote from 124-2933 the nazis had made some significant electoral games but these did not come at the expense of the other political parties. instead voter turnout was rising rapidly. and it appears that many people who marked their ballot for the nazis had previously been nonvoters. it was to appear the n.s.t. a.p. the nazi party was what they called a people s party the party of protest it was the only party that was effective across the weimar republic of the f.t. is also a mixture of socially established voters from the center who have drifted to the right and new voters protest voters who see it as a vehicle to express their dissatisfaction importance. and we will keep this revolution going on till politics in this country has been reversed by 180 degrees . the a.f.d. also capitalizes on protest and it attracts people who didn t vote before almost a quarter of the of the supporters were previously nonvoters there s a clear parallel to the former nazi party. is immaterial as it is also implies that not all nazi voters around 1932 had suddenly become convinced racists and anti semites and national socialists the nazis were harvesting the protest vote and the f.t. is doing that too it s. even in these economically stable times the f.t. has succeeded in sparking protests on the streets. unemployment in germany is low and the economy seemingly robust but the danger is still there. german society is becoming increasingly fragmented isn t kind of we re not a society that s getting poorer we re a society that s getting richer anyone can inferi grow wealthy but the op a 60 percent in our society keep getting richer while the lower 40 percent haven t made any gains in the last 15 years and that s a problem even with the expansion of opportunity and social inequality has grown. this 40 percent is 32000000 people in germany people who ve seen no economic gains or who have even lost ground the state of affairs. has become a threat to social stability what would happen in the event of a new global economic crisis if germany experienced runaway inflation and mass unemployment. is at a kind of best of the new radical right is pursuing a policy of ratcheting up social tensions they want to push it to the point where tensions will erupt and destroying liberal democracy it s going to look at history . the by more republic went from a peaceful democracy to a brutal dictatorship in just 14 years. in attendance the trend is that we re very gradually seeing a return to those things social polarizations right wing extremism the rise of an anti democratic party the rise of right wing violence a state and a government that no longer seem to be able to cope with a situation. where all of those elements existed in the weimar republic we re not repeating that history that we must draw on our knowledge of what happened to the weimar republic to make sure it doesn t happen again. to make things right match bloodbath beats dusseldorf and wins pakistan this. week it ll be all right match. 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soccer team says today none of the tunes from the former east german top division play in the bundesliga one is that we ask a player from the east in the west. next d.w. . how do you. have a sustainable way discovered about. starts november 14th on t.w. . tribes . without this peaceful revolution matchday tens 1st of abundance league a jewel between an east and west berlin club would never have been possible. never before had that been a bull musica ficta with as many historical undertones to your best as cats out fans right in the historic occasion with a flurry of fireworks which they found fitting a week before the 30th anniversary of the full of the walk. in lay the kids in league leading black have the chance to make history 2 with their best season stuck in 42 years. while another eastern club like they also made history. the biggest time when they go on bundesliga history don t face undefeated bulls book as their coach passed a personal miles done to perjury poor lucien fellow for a win would be cool to present the man didn t buy and visit a friend 1st robot love until. ok how does our own record to chase. just sit. outside of that by and have very little to celebrate because i certainly won t forget the visit to frankfurt any time soon and especially not what happened in the white if that much. it s time to say good bye in the cocoa patch after by ends crushing defeat in frankfurt s he knew what was coming. yeah we know how these things work so everyone can relax. and relax probably isn t the right word when you get the defense after the game relations with the top brass were already tense before the match a match that others will have happy memories of. that she d been under pressure for weeks with growing calls for his removal from fans on social media. many believe kovacs wasn t up to leading the referee champions. some were hoping that pine because would return to the bio and bench the colts foliage abandon hope the fullness is led by and barely scraped by with results shooting from 4th in front things will be intense from the 1st minute and then this we ve got to be wide awake and if we start off the way we have done in the last few weeks we can end up trailing early on and kind of snippets you know some of those in which included. a good start so many meetings not being a man down to 10 minutes tang s like challenger go on sunday pass in c.f. then tim read codd s probably know what coachman s about getting stuff came by and now had 10000000 and so seems about. i because that s brothers when he means to. pay full attention could rally his troops frankfurt school would not just once but twice for the stop was philip hostage it was already the 11th gold conceded by brian this season and that number was about to quickly rise further frank that coach on the hotel had conjured up a bill which a game plan and that s just how he saw it play the 2 mill wasn t just a bewildering bit of team football it was further proof of zion being off the pace . djibril so finished off the mesmerising news that his 1st goal in front colors that she s much found was in sas is on the coach was already getting with to parts not on social media. one fan complained he d never seen by and so poor. one of the few bright spots up by an israel but they haven t don t speak he s already amassed 14 bundesliga goals topping the league by a mile and here he extended another back to school ring in the 1st 10 days of the season. and he and his wife bewitched fans on halloween recently what about. halloween i wasn t there last year either i made it clear that it s not my kind of thing has. no need to get spanked on halloween then was enough to fasten against frankfurt s anyone expecting by him to come out firing in the 2nd tower was sorely mistaken the hosts made it 31 just 2 minutes after the restart downbeat abra with frank but was pushing things out of reach for the visitors here to the buy in fact i looked on the sluggish lines. just as welcome back to was checking his watch and not the comments on brian s facebook page. the fact that this. a messy occurred in front of his former fans known to be among the loudest in the league likely and he made things worse. frank 1st laid waste to buy a martin tag and they didn t want against him well that s defense and number 5 from past the n.c.a.a. look like child s play it was the lions biggest loss in the league. and after last week s unconvincing cup outing against full home no surprise to some. there were signs before it s no mystery what happened today you saw the game in both him and because of that it s really no big shot what happened here for me is kind of reasonable rational or civil service because that was let go 24 hours later and next weekend will see and nothing not meant to truth. dormant have also come under heavy criticism too many draws too few goalscorers. the coach has seen better days is quiet presence hasn t come over so well and he doesn t exactly have those you can clock vibes still this crucial week began with a strong showing from lucien fall of the play julien branson his favorite attacking midfield position responded with 2 goals firing dortmund past league leaders bloodbath and into the next round. now they have to beat the only remaining undefeated team in the league multiple germany under 21 where lucas mention nearly helped the bulls get in 1st blood in the 22nd minute boils by the crossbar. with just 5 goals conceded vosburgh have the tightest defense in the league scoring would come easy to do. the jewel between 4th place both good and 5th place dortmund remains. schoolish at the half time whistle of. 2 women knew what they were doing wrong. and also nasty in the 1st half we really struggled to get behind their lines on claim to space but we might start a lot better in the 2nd half on the us a not so different you 1st the under-fire coach had once again made some clever changes he rested 5 players for mid week including shields and zach a do as well as such other than vit so and although mark or royce picked up an injury after 18 minutes and was replaced by not feel good to see and favs right station machine kicked into gear in the 2nd half and traffic kimi featured in the cup match latched onto a ball in the 52nd minute and played in talk and i thought my of the belgian made it one nil. a special goal. his 1st to do. just the 1st goals and at home it s a good feeling for me for me mentally and for the team won a cup for the for the months off a team that previously seemed incapable of shining without the luminary lights of its soul royce essential of the south then fed rafael guerrero to double the league s goldmans once again playing like 2 with. the portuguese attacker was likewise on the bench in midweek now he s brought a smile to his coach s face. and jump check out hero bronze one of penalty lights on. my kids that had a chance of a personal confidence booster from the spots. of the premier with 3 minutes left. former topples the previously young defeat. divorce book now that celebrating your birthday in style. was that it was a great present we want to weigh in the mother wants. to lose in the lady it s good i m happy with the 3 you know this is a good time. farmers also got to be pleased that dortmund have gone 3 league matches without conceding a goal that s a solid run but this week of truth continues on tuesday when dormant host into milan in the champions league. and if you can catch your breath well then face by and next saturday but never mind the traditional big for now there s another team up. to kick off the compact section. and then she got back the league leaders for 3 weeks running knew they had a hard task ahead of them away and leave the person defensively strong bloodbaths defense under pressure of the 90 minutes but the falls with a cold ability to go. in the 18th minute new star marcus telecom broke into the box pass to the middle and found veteran also give then he s been back since 2011 leaving his an equaliser shortly after thanks to assure the sweet pass from ucas the rio 2 and on running kevin fall arms but the focus went back ahead before half time courtesy of. the french men s 5 goals and 3 assists have been key in firing got back to the top of the standings. thanks to an effective blend of new and old players with 7 wins in the bag and enjoying their best season start since the late 970. i do a brief slump shot her back to their winning ways up against 17 hours book they had a big. guns to jump back on track with the home side s daniel but it was the 1st to hit home. just before the break shot the levelled with a little help from stephan leach dyna fellow daniel caligiuri would have liked to take credit. coach david wagner couldn t care less. alfredsson bogus and restore the host lead from the spot but the visitors came back again from behind bars and come back nicking in the 2 tunes from another caligiuri free kicks . no one no one to see more. with 8 minutes left i mean are it s pounced on a fatal mistake before slinking through the outgoing defense to seal the win after an october gill drop the match when it is back on track just as shaka. alfred surely does when does he go stance it s hoffenheim failed to impress posting just one win in his 1st 6 outings but lately it s been snoops ailing again slowly behind a bone the hosts got off to a quick stocks robots go opened his brain does legal recount to the pool just 3 came from 60 metres sounds a quarter of an hour in a slick lives or how they cut it back double leads back then himself sent a cross over to your look cardia coolly controlled it dodged his marker and hit with the flow. of history 1st top goals were enough to secure a hoffenheim 4th straight win bringing them back into the top half of the table those who foresaw choice as. one mistake. with just 2 wins so far in the league and 4 consecutive times flossy encore folk live less than confident at the prospect of high flying freiburg. finding the. nets is not brains problem recovered you yell sucker and send the ball forward to their rocket man middle ratchets up to the lake and then 9 minutes. later in the 2nd half rashid s are set up to get brazil lessie for his 1st league goal since their fixture against freiburg in april. but where braman to struggle is in defense earlier usually puzzling because fumble on a back pass under pressure was seized on by news paid to sit that was the one. and when freiburg were awarded a free kick in the 93rd minute kofod fears the worst. braman have conceded more goals from set pieces than any other team in the early. pages and back to price against his former club and brain and once again fail to learn from their mistakes the fates draw in a rug and further frustration for coco. on sunday rhineland rivals disallowed often cologne face style for the 1st time in the top flight in over 20 years and level on only 7 points they fought tooth and nail. but desoto had the us perhaps this time who s been handing these pounded home a penalty in the says he 8 minutes an hour in can i hands spotted eric tommy up front and planted a ball upfield from foot to his house with an impressive sotto sprint tell me deliver the final blow to cologne and give it to their 1st when they came to live in 10 top flight outtakes. after 7 losses of him by a lot to says he s the guys to his men just in case and from the rhineland we now heads to east in germany. with. all the lights a club with a totally unique history lots of cash has been pumped into the club that s also how they sign coach you leonardo s money he s been brought on to win silverware but like i say i got a measly 2 points from the last 4 games. that i had been in great form as they thrashed bones were going to come and had another son and i against mines. but still both football bowl results after just 5 minutes nice work from vets and what no cells outside the burner sets up a perfect pull for the austrian midfielder and couldn t have missed that one if he tried of them then he was also involved in the 2nd goal not here is my source the bull but a flashlight up as he passed the use of powers and then rocketed up the pitch. his glistering run was then sorts out by teammate christopher in concord. to deal with 30 minutes played and textbook attacking football novels man squad couldn t be stopped and one player in particular even if he doesn t see it that way inside the bus they were all team effort using 3 or 4 players and played out really quickly it was never a case of one guy just dribbling past 2 or 3 players it was because whenever mike s cordoned off the likes of play or another appearance but this time it was incomplete 3 nil up to 35 minutes might say fail to be right good lay the cruzan voce book or shocker in their previous outings 13th place might seem like the kind of adverse reet they could thrive against. but also you can celebrate but don t get carried away because everything can change in 3 days on the same come 3 days how about 5 minutes that s how long it took for a light 6 to find the net. what s more. the furthest. from us house than the above yet even like 6 outside backs a given free reign to storm forwards. the band in the 44th minute hausen clean things up to give light sic the heights of the house only in the bundesliga of of it was 541 years ago glad that wrote history with the biggest ever pulled his leg a victory back then they spanked do and 12 nil sports historians in the ground must have been eyeing that record already at half time when like 6 players thinking. it was called course and than it gets easier and it was just top performing solo and that brings us back to see more of the man who made it 6 nil just 3 minutes into the 2nd half of the band when van is not scoring himself he s busy setting up his teammates as seen in this cross for nor the new kidney of the above those who have lost count that was 7 nil joy and glory for light sake but a fiasco for months but security that back line they were simply miles behind the plate on this one. was kind of cold regardless of your system you have to make the tackles and we missed out in spades today mass effect missing less than team of then i had scored just once in the previous 6 league matches against my c.m. s 3 assists and completed his hat trick shortly before the final but some of the yellow light cigs biggest of them on disney go with not a bad day at the office. it s not that clear for the opponents what he will do for coming direct so i want to get the balls to feet and to make one i want situations are if you get the ball in the free space so it s a very important player in today s. also great great to goals for us and i hope you will do the same and so because. it was a scintillating week for leipzig following a dip in form earlier in october they now have the best goal difference in the league. thanks largely to this guy. and now we stay in the east. 30 years since the fall of the burnin wall saturday finally saw him and his story coming together in the german capital in their 1st ever top flight encounter o neill on from the city s former east coast to cancer from the west is becoming germany s football capital. football in berlin is exactly where it should be years with no club in the 1st division. and now there are 2 have to be decades of history to make a real. when the city was divided the fans actually supported each other they ve played 4 times before pool since reunification in the 2nd flight it s a pseudo rivalry sure there s the east west part or rather just 2 teams playing each other but it won t be much more aggressive than if we were hosting like usual freiburg who lives are afraid to cross into who is this dumpy even capable of putting on the map as a footballing but chuck race as far as fun choreography goes both sets did more than their passing pretty. and on the pitch only own had a strong start they had a massive chance from christopher lenz that just didn t want to happen i was and then things got physical that certainly looks darby like. but chances were few and far between it was. time not exactly the fiery darby fans type to fall. but then the half the fans had a right idea file x. west shooting at the east that should have life in things up at the very least the rivalry was heating up it was like new year s eve in berlin and full of the whole celebrations rolled it too long. but there was one problem the referee hailing from distant the area couldn t handle a wild night out in the capital and white because the game. even when the field lifted off right we started this still wasn t much to see. particularly disappointing well i think. the big problem was that we agreed to play on the way they want to play just kick the ball longer and didn t really get control of the of the ball couldn t really make any actions. and this was the biggest problem the one to their level and play the way they wanted us to play. i didn t see neil neil improve the debut album not even quite the named killer but shortly before the final whistle the resting showed the 5 previously pointing to the stands would make it to the fields penalty who knew the the c. impulse s. the base that you won the west the movement the he put it away and the rest is history the. more spectacular skull was this past weekend. than the 1st in this league a dummy between have to and when you own wasn t the best match that historic day but one that will be remembered for fan trouble although. the pair rafiki advantage to help stop some foolish fans from attacking hats as players but is the wins. something special for $21.00. people going maybe it means we ve won 3 points 3 points in the relegation battle. modest to me were going to present any oh now it s 3 wins and 10 points if they keep it up we ll be able to look forward to more balanced darby s next season. much day 10 was chock full of history science was the biggest loss since 2009 black backed 7 when in 10 blunders league matches is their best ever start and leipzig celebrated their highest one does league a victory meanwhile the bolian dubey ended in a mid one nil. but what does all that mean for the table. once again tasked with defending the top spot don t mend it like this line up woods while bowling and drop to 4th how often i am of just breached the top half. down below mine sounds good cologne and possible one will win less despite that they only held on to their coaches unlike another club after this unforgettable weekend. the final blow for nico was a 51 loss to his former club frankfurt which feels like a cruel twist of fate but not a surprise you can yeah we know how these things work so everyone can relax but the 24 hours after the debacle in frankfurt were likely anything but relaxing for the buy and bosses they brought in coach because of his pedigree he won the league and cup as a player and buyer as munich s coach he won the double in his 1st season his brother robert was always by his side as an assistant. even after the loss in frankfurt kept looking forwards when we think we have to focus mentally we ve got to forget this. quickly them it s because on wednesday we got the chance to settle the group in the champions league concoct 4th in the league up to 10 matches just isn t up to snuff the bayani germany s world cup winning assistant coach pansy flick will take over is pat sega we wish them both good luck up. up up. up. i m. going to. cut back on the. people. coming. in the. years after the fall of the berlin wall on d. w. . today i write a long before more border between east and west berlin. i would like to see what remains the for history of the division of the europe germany and probably . searching for traces of the berlin wall. 30 minutes on d w. comes from the adventures of the famous naturalist and explorer. to celebrate clicks on the phone books from 250 a morning on the for the job 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a small part documentary starts nov 14th w. . this is news to live from berlin the pro and anti government demonstrators take to lebanon streets for a weekend of rally. supporters of president michel owen try to canter antigovernment sentiment that is paralyze the country for more than 2 weeks. authorities in delhi declared a public health emergency as air pollution reaches the highest levels this year heavy smog closer schools and causes dozens of flights to be diverted. in the bundesliga a fiercely fought and historic saw it. secure the capital city for bragging rights to the one nil victory over local rivals her top. a michael thanks for joining us nationwide protests are underway in lebanon as demonstrators keep up their demands for reforms in political change and one rally outside beirut thousands have gathered in support of president michel own he s been under heightened pressure to step down after the prime minister did so earlier this week. anti-government rallies are also taking place today lebanon has been swept by more than 2 weeks of demonstrations against a political class accused of corruption but the protesters also turned their rallies into joyous occasions. with illuminated mobile phones held aloft and a celebrity d.j. behind the decks it was as much a rave as a protest but the thousands of people in tripoli s out of north square had good reason to assemble that demand to overthrow the political class the does dominated lebanon for 30 years and with the resignation of the prime minister on october the 29th the protests seem to be working there was no doubt that there was something of a party atmosphere at this demo and d.j. mahdi k. read the mood of patriotism by playing the national anthem. he seemed to proud to play a part in continuing the pressure for change. i am participating in the revolution to live in a decent country a country like any other country because this is not a country and there are so many things wrong i purchase are created to eliminate the wrong things and the protesters also recognized how music and a d.j. can unite the crowd and he is uniting people through one music one clap one speech we are all in the same rhythm the d.j. is causing great excitement he s making people stronger in the revolution the d.j. s encouraging people a lot. of things i don t get. in a country divided on sectarian lines this coming together is a strong indication of the reach of the protests that are now really gathering pace . for more i m happy to welcome di w. s i even to him in this studio who has reported extensively from the middle east for us i welcome good to see. you have to be here so we know that there are 2 rival demonstrations to take place today in lebanon one for the president michel own and another against the entire government which will be getting under way fairly soon what are the choices that lebanon faces currently i think it s not an exaggeration to say that the choice is between sort of radical change a historical change in lebanon s history and more or less compromise and to understand this we maybe want to remind our viewers a little bit of lebanon s political system which is one of the most complex in the world in lebanon your religion or your sect is not just something that you practice in your private life it s something that really governs all aspects of public life and the government really reflects lebanon s sectarian diversity if you will the country has 18 recognized religious sects and all of them the constitution kind of guarantees for them to be part of the government somehow so parliament seats are allocated according to these different kinds of sects and also the 3 highest political offices are located according to the 3 biggest religious groups in lebanon so the prime minister has to be a sunni muslim the president a christian and the speaker of the house a shiite muslim and right now the prime minister did resign he went to the president and he gave him his or his resignation but the president says you know we re going to now throw the ball back to the prime minister and ask him to form a caretaker government and what the protesters are saying the ones that are opposing this move are saying you know what this is not radical enough what we want we want this entire sectarian political system to be gone completely if we just do this this is just a recycling of what we had before and that is just not good enough for them at this point so that s the kind of choice the protesters are facing today on the streets of lebanon gone completely undone now yes they want that s why they were here however this is a very complex thing 11 must say that what the protesters that are against this move are saying they say they want early elections with a revised electoral law that does not follow the 6. in other question but one must say this is an incredibly this is a huge feat i mean this is a system that has been in place in lebanon goes all the way back to the ottoman empire was sort of enshrined in law by the french occupation and then it was reinstated after the civil war so it s definitely a huge but they want what they want now for the time being is a technocratic caretaker government not one that unlike the one that we had before under the leadership of president prime ministers out of haiti for you briefly what we saw in this piece was a lot of young people taking place in those demonstrations with d.j. s present people dancing these are parties as much as they are protest what kind of role are young people playing in the political evolution of lebanon today you know i think one could go with the cliche and say you know lebanon is a country that knows how to throw a good party and certainly true but one protester told me you know i asked her i said you know what about this i mean even tripoli this is the conservative sunni north what s happening there you know she said you know this is a celebration of each other you know the lebanese people didn t have these options to just interact across sects on the street like this before and we re meeting each other as a people and you have to remember you know a lot of the people that are on the street they grew up after the civil war they don t remember why the sectarian system even exists and they don t really identify with it anymore and so there s no emotional attachment to having their government divided like that and they re out on the street trying to sort out through something that they would like to do is just throw a big party. abraham thanks so much for that. lebanon isn t the only arab country facing massive protests iraq seeing calls for the government to step down from have lit fires and block roads in the capital baghdad more than $250.00 people have died in antigovernment protests in the last month the demonstrators want to change the political order which they save corrupt and has failed to deliver basic services. now to some of the other stories making news around the world hong kong riot police have searched a shopping center clashing with protesters and making several arrests it comes a day after demonstrators set fire to street barricades in metro stations police used tear gas and water cannon in one of the most forceful crackdowns since protests began 5 months ago. at the aspen summit in bangkok the u.n. secretary general. has urged mir in marjah solve the refugee crisis violent clashes with the military 2 years ago so hundreds of thousands flee to neighboring bangladesh called facilitate the return of the rohingya muslims minority. in france 100000 homes are without power as. batters the atlanta coast the weather service says strong winds will continue throughout the day the storm is then expected to lose strength later as it moves east. air pollution in delhi has reached the highest levels so far this year authorities in the world s most polluted city have declared a public health emergency the smog caused more than 30 flights to be diverted from the airport a government monitoring agency is warning they ll be little relief in the next day or 2. in india it isn t so much bad light but bad air that could stop play delhi the country s capital is in the middle of a pollution crisis although it s not a new occurrence in 2017 toxic smog led to international cricket players vomiting on the field this year the national team played down the problem ahead of its match with bangladesh. we are used to this we have. nothing nothing special. and. beyond the field though the pollution is an undeniable problem now at its worst levels categorized as hazardous and even causing flight delays and diversions because of small impact on visibility people are wearing face masks to protect themselves from the filthy air others are taking to the streets to demonstrate against the lack of action to tackle the crisis. patients are coming with more like this but it is he says like more affected with asthma so that now it is much of this but i think the nation that pollution is increasing one both or it sees in the world s most polluted capital city have declared a public health emergency and ordered the closure of schools. to the buddhist leader now where buying munich travel to frankfurt formidable home field it was always going to be a challenging task for the german champions but one can t imagine they expected it to go quite as badly as it did. niko kovac has been feeling the heat lately with byan off the pace in the league so it was hardly the ideal time for a trip to his former club frankfurt on track to have the best time record in the league going into the game and just 9 minutes in by and were already in trouble gonzalo pass e.n.c. ahead through and drew a foul from jerome bowen saying the veteran sense about it was the last man so the referee had no choice but to show him a red card a man down and in the 25th minute by and were a goal down to thanks to phillip cost it. the serbian wing of pounced on a deflection and placed a perfect 1st time finish past month while neuer. about 10 minutes later it was 2 nil when a stunning move ended with djibril so firing into the back post. frank but again profited from a deflection but stories finish with clinical that were almost always applies to robert love and dusty 2 and buy ins hero got them back in the guy the poll showed phenomenal skill and strength to continue his record of scoring in every bundesliga game this season and have the deficit before half time. but after the break frankfurt made the extra man count 1st of it ever have made it 31. the sense about scoring his 1st goal of the season after by and again at the back post on guarded then just after the hour mark frankfurt made it for one martin hints at converting a corner to put frank but injury mind and with 5 minutes to go by and humiliation was complete. the fans could hardly believe their eyes but frankfurt had taken by in the parts andrei silva danced through the books and sets up. the 51 scoreline made this by is worst defeat since 2009 and their supporters let the players know exactly how they felt. but while it was a day to forget for them for the hosts this match will live long in the memory. clearly a shock result for byron they re here in the capital when your own berlin faced her to berlin in the 1st top flight battle between the 2 capital teams it was a special night for both clubs but the darby will be remembered for the wrong reasons after serious trouble. violin fans brought out the best banners for arguably the biggest game in their history that is sad to slay city rivals hats are taking a page out of greek mythology just 3 minutes into the 1st top flight davi between the teams christof and then struck the post it stayed the best chance of the 1st half. both teams were cancelling each other out in a teaching encounter but the hosts were generally on top. but in the 2nd half unsavory scenes spoiled the berlin davi it appeared to be has a fancy fired flares on to the pitch the referee was forced to hold the game temporarily and take that teams back down the tunnel to safety. once the situation and come down slightly it was time for football again that is dead trick but yes it was a joke story. christian kent. a debatable one even after a video review by substitute sebastian pope s i didn t care he took his chance on 87 minutes to become the hero of the evening for the own families wasn t the best the penalties put no one in the home stands at the outset 1st the guy can vote shortly afterwards the whistle blew but only own celebrations were overshadowed more flares rained down on the pitch from the hats and. then when you and players were forced to pacify their own otro fans. it was still time for a party you know how the berlin davi bragging rights. lewis hamilton could be just hours away from his 6 formula one title the british driver needs to finish 8th or better at the us grand prix to secure the championship
msnbc.com/now, the msnbc app and apple tv. and you can find me on social media, twitter, facebook, instagram, snapchat, linked in, all that stuff. thank you for watching. have a great weekend. deadline: white house with nicolle wallace begins right now. hi, everyone. it s 4:00 in new york. donald trump today resorting to a familiar tactic spreading lies and smears on one of his favorite cable news programs in the wake of the house democrat s public hearings this week providing irrefutable evidence that donald trump conditioned refused military aid could tukt informations. the new york times writes, quote, president trump unleashed a series of falsehoods on friday on an effort to invalidate the impeachment inquiry and counter sworn testimony from officials in his own administration. after a week of damaging public hearings. and while divisions in our politics endure, it s beyond debate that the democrats fact witnesses, the majority of them, trump appointees and career diplomats, painted a devastating picture of presidential misconduct that was damning enough that the new york times today describes trump s republican allies as, quote, all but certain that the house will move forward to impeach president trump. nbc news reports today that the house is expecting to vote on articles of impeachment in a matter of weeks as republicans face a devastating dismantling of their last remaining defenses against the allegations at the heart of the ukraine scandal. the washington post adds this. quote, the committee has begun writing a report summarizing its findings according to people familiar with the matter who spoke anonymously to discuss the democrats next move. once that s completed proceedings move to the house judiciary committee which will draft specific articles of impeachment. the judiciary committee could begin its work when lawmakers return from thanksgiving. what we now know for certain based on the public testimony of 12 of trump s own current and former administration officials is that there was, without question, a quid pro quo with ukraine. a pursuit trump s former senior aide fiona hill rebranded this week as, quote, political errands we have also learned that the ukrainians knew full well that their military aid was in jeopardy as early as the day of the july 25th phone call when trump asked zelensky for a favor though. investigations into the bidens and that when it came to the day-to-day machinations of the pressure campaign, the president wi everyone was in the loop. mr. giuliani s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a white house visit for president zelensky. was there a quid pro quo? the answer is yes. what did ambassador sondland tell you that he told m mr. yermak? that the ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor general make a statement with respect to the investigations as a condition of having the aid lifted. your staff at least gleaned from those conversations that the ukrainian embassy was aware that there was some kind of a hold on the assistance. sir, the way i would phrase it is that there was some kind of an issue, yes. secretary perry, ambassador volker, and i worked with mr. rudy giuliani on ukraine matters at the express direction of the president of the united states. i was upset with him that he wasn t fully telling us about all of the meetings that he was having. and he said to me but i am briefing the president, i am briefing chief of staff mulvaney, i am briefing secretary pompeo, and i have talked to ambassador bolton. who else do i have to deal with? he was being involved in a domestic political errand. and we were being involved in national security foreign policy, and those two things had just diverged. i did say to him ambassador sondland, i think this is all going to blow up, and here we are. and here we are. those witnesses again some of whom still work in the trump administration are consistent and they tell a damaging story leaving such little room for spin that president trump today had to resort to an attack on ukraine and a baseless conspiracy theory that every single one of the witnesses to date has debunked in a head-spinning rebuttal interview this morning on fox and friends. why should we give money to a country that s known corrupt, it s a very corrupt country. i love the people in ukraine. i know ukrainian people. they are great people. but it s known as being the third most corrupt consider eye in the world. now, with this guy who, by the way i hardly know him, i still want to see that server. the fbi s never gotten that server. that s a big part of this whole thing. why did they give it to a ukrainian company? are you sure they did that? are you sure they gave it to ukraine? well, that s what the word is. that s what i asked actually in my phone call. i asked it very point-blank because we are looking for corruption. that s what the word is from whom? from rudy? again, there is no truth to what the president is saying. and there is a new report in the new york times reveals this claim that ukraine meddled in the 2016 election is literally a russian talking point, part of a years-long russian operation to blame ukraine to deflect from what it got caught doing, interfering in our election in 2016. that s where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. former u.s. attorney joyce vance joins us, michael steele, former chairman of the rnc is here. at the table kimberly atkins, senior correspondent for boston s public news station, new york times political reporter nick confessori, and contributor for the bulwark, tim miller is here. kim, i have to start with you. you could not make up, you know, a new cycle to prove that everything that fiona hill tried to tell donald trump behind closed doors fell on deaf ears, then to put donald trump on fox and friends where he repeats the conspiracy theories that she and tom bossert and john bolton tried to beat out of him for three years. you are absolutely right. and not just the very convincing testimony by fiona hill, but a culmination of two weeks of stories which all fit together to paint this picture of this, which she called this domestic political errand that was completely divergent from u.s. policy and that was focused specifically on getting information about joe biden and hunter biden in exchange for either a white house meeting, which the ukrainians wanted a phone call, or most importantly aid at a time where the country was at war with russia. every official painted the same picture. even those like gordon sondland somebody who got his job after giving a million dollars to trump s inaugural committee. it was a very damning two weeks of testimony. it seems that the president has settled on, a, digging in, and, b, continuing to put forward these talking points that we have heard from him and we have heard them from rudy giuliani about ukraine, which have been disproven. you know, nick, you re in the business of investigative journalism and you go about if it s a dicey story you need at least two sources. and if it s really dicey you need three or four. to prove a quid pro quo the democrats had 17 witnesses. it s proven beyond a reasonable doubt that donald trump conditioned military aid for u.s. ally, a democracy at risk from russia on politically motivated investigations into 2016 and into the bidens. and he told us so. yeah. so on a factual basis, where would you rank sort of the voracity of the case the democrats made? if i was a reporter, and i am, i d be super confident in taking out of the phrase alleged and just saying this is what actually happened. we now know what really happened. we know what the trade was. i would say if this was like a jig saw puzzle, instead of the one where like you try and figure out where the pieces fit together, we sort of started with like the border already built and we were kind of filling in the middle. now we have the whole thing. it s actually very clear. we have learned some important new things obviously from these hearings. but they re mostly about precise issues of timing which are always helpful in figuring out something. kind of who knew what when, the president s involvement, mulvaney s involvement, and the ukrainians knowledge of what was happening at any given time. those are all important ingredients. it wasn t like it was a pointless exercise. but, man, everything is pretty nailed down now. you know, it s a great point, joyce. and i was thinking about it with nick sitting here from an investigative journalist s perspective. but you are a prosecutor. andrew weissmann was at our table yesterday. and other prosecutors. i mean, if you ask people if they d take this case and think they could prove it. claire mccaskill says i could take it, i could prove it pretty cut and dry. you know, in a criminal case, which impeachment is not the burden of proof is the highest proof in our legal system, proof beyond a reasonable doubt. but what judges tell juries, you don t have to include every scintilla of doubt. you just have to be comfortable enough with the evidence that you would use it to act on one of the most important decisions in your own personal life. and that i think is what we see here. when i hear nick say he would take out the word alleged, that means a lot to me. the only defense that this president has ever tried to mount here is the defense that he s a corruption fighter. trump who is anti-corruption. and aside from the fact that that defense is completely laughable for all of the reasons that we know and talk about every day, what really nails it is the fact that if trump wanted to fight corruption in ukraine, he would have kept marie yovanovitch on the job. she was a known corruption fighter. there s no reason to bring in a bumbling rudy giuliani and the three amigos. so every defense that the president has to offer here i think as a criminal case this would be very strong. michael steele and tim miller from the party formerly known as republicans. let me read you from what peggy nuna said. what was but more deadly was what has never been said. in the two months since speaker nancy pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry was underway in the two weeks since the intelligence committee s public hearings began, no one s even in the white house has said anything like he wouldn t do that or that would be so unlike him. his best friends, know he would do it, and it s exactly like him. the case has been so clearly made you wonder what exactly the senate will be left doing. how will they hold a lengthy trial with a case that is this clear? who exactly will be the president s witnesses? those who testify they didn t know what he appears to haven t done? bravo first off on that piece. but i would answer the question of the trial itself as it will be nothing more than a show trial. it will go down one of two paths. either those impeachment articles will come to the senate and be put in the drawer of the senate president because he feels mr. mcconnell that there is nothing that merits a trial, or if he feels that, okay, we ll just go through the process, they will go through the process. but we already know the vote, don t we? why do we? the jurors well, because the jurors have told us at least one of them has said i m not even going to read what comes out of this, mr. lindsey graham. imagine as a citizen going into a courtroom and you re one of the jurors, you re going to do your civic duty and the guy next to you goes i ain t even going to read this stuff. i ain t even going to bother with it. the whole system becomes corrupted. and that s the end game here. that s what it s been from jim jordan to lindsey graham. this is all about corrupting this process so vily that the american people are turned off and turned away. it is such a sad commentary. and i m only picking on my friend michael steele because i find it, it guts me that this is what the republican party s turned into, that the corruption is in the gop in washington. the corruption isn t in ukraine. i mean, i m jealous that people like marie yovanovitch sort of walk the line and rooted out corruption. maybe they can bring her to washington and put her to work in the congress, tim. exactly what the president and rudy giuliani are accusing joe biden of doing is what they did in ukraine. it was rudy giuliani who went to ukraine who had business interests who wanted there to be changes in the way that they did natural gas business in ukraine because he had clients there. it was this administration that has done that, and now in ukraine and turkey and saudi arabia where they have businesses and where they are corrupt. you re right the entire senate has been corrupted by this. lindsey graham, there was a video going around of him doing an interview with my different scott conway where he gets emotional talking about joe biden. he says there is no better man than joe biden. and here he is today putting forth just a basically for-show investigation for the senate that he knows is b.s. against joe biden. because whatever you think about what hunter did and it was, you know, probably a little bit dirty, joe biden went into ukraine to encourage what was dirty about it? i just want to be careful with our words. we had 11 witnesses publicly. no one testified anything dirty. are you saying it looked bad? the optics are terrible, and obviously hunter biden doesn t have the expertise in this area. i think that s a fair point that the republicans are making on the hill. but here is the problem is that they are obscuring the reality of the point, which is that joe biden, president obama, and multiple other members of the obama administration went into ukraine with an earnest effort to stop corruption. they wanted to get rid of the prosecutor because he wasn t prosecuting the company that hunter biden worked for. that was a genuine anti-corruption effort. so, what joe biden did can i just say? here s what else they are obscuring. if a real crime happened donald trump sits atop the part of the government where he can pick up the phone and call the justice department with a tip. they ve got tip lines. if a real crime happened, you don t call a fake corruption hunter like rudy giuliani. and by the way, that goes doubly true for ron johnson and lindsey graham and all those people who were in the senate when this happened. like, this wasn t in ancient history. the republicans controlled the house and the senate when joe biden was going over to ukraine to do anti-corruption efforts. if they thought that the deal was rotten, they could have done investigations then. they didn t. ron johnson signed a letter saying he agreed that the prosecutor should be fired. it s all a farce. well, you know, it doesn t have to be. maybe i have watched too many erin sorkin movies, but there is still a scenario where i thought some tectonic plates shifted this week. i thought one of them was gordon sondland s sort of early morning release of his statement where he said everybody was in on it. i wasn t rogue, i wasn t part of an irregular policy channel. this was the channel. it was run by donald trump, vice president pence and mike pompeo. this was the channel. and then i thought the plate shifted again when fiona hill came in yesterday and said you are doing russia s work for them. do we really think there is no scenario where if john bolton were to sort of find religion and walk in and testify in a senate trial that republicans who have trusted john bolton for decades wouldn t say h-mmm? i think the one variable here is public opinion. we have seen that shifted since, for example, the mueller investigation, it seemed to go on and on, hard to wrap your head around. the last two weeks has painted a fairly clear picture. we are going into a break where we are going to have people and they are not supposed to talk about politics at the thanksgiving table, but i have a feeling that that will be happening. and people have been, look, when i traveled across. i ve been everywhere from california to the east coast and the midwest. everyone stops and asks about the impeachment. it s on people s minds. people are going to be talking about it. people are going to be digesting what has happened over the last two weeks. and they are going to be the lawmakers are going to be hearing from them about it. if that shifts particularly some more moderate republicans we may hear folks begin to speak out more, that might tip the needle. well, they might not be republican. i can see michael steele shaking his head. let me come back to joyce. i think that a large swath of the american public that may not be the ones that watch prime time on any cable news channel. but a part of the public has now watched, and they may not have been compelled by or moved by or alarmed by the mueller hearing. but they learned that robert mueller couldn t touch donald trump because a sitting president can t be indicted. they might not have watched michael cohen testified but they knew some other guy associated with trump is sitting in jail. but donald trump even though he s an unindicted co-conspirator there, he can t go to jail because he s president. so he can t get in trouble in any federal criminal investigation. now he can t get in trouble for a crime he confesses to on the south lawn of the white house that 17 people who work for them half of them he picked himself attested to? i think donald trump maybe should be accountable to somebody. i think that you ve identified the problem. and it goes back to what kim said about how important public opinion is here in some ways maybe more important than the evidence itself. because the problem is half of the country is appalled by the notion that a president would succeed in holding himself above the law. but there is another half of the country that says we like this guy, this is what we signed up for, he is somebody who s always had animosity for the system. they don t seem troubled by it. so what we see happening i think especially in the wake of dr. hill s testimony and the reporting today that the senate has been briefed by the intelligence community on the fact that moscow has been running since at least 2017 an effort to push this ukrainian narrative that it was ukraine not moscow that was responsible for interference in the 2016 election. the shift that will have to come is that the american public will have to look at that piece of the puzzle and sort of back up from all of the evidence all of the trees and look at the whole forest and say the soviet union may have lost the cold war but putin has extracted a hell of a payback on us trying to tear us apart trying to manipulate us. and it s only at the point where public opinion shifts and says we won t stand for this and conveys that to their legislators, to their republican senators that there s really any chance that there is real movement. i think in some ways that overall vision is more important than the individual pieces of evidence because they re damning but they haven t created any movement. michael steele. yeah. i think that last point is the crux to this. i just don t see that movement happening. i think the president and his team very much as we saw with the mueller case have been somewhat successful with creating a narrative in which this is not as important as the democrats. notice during this entire thing, democrats talked about my colleagues, the gentleman across the aisle. republicans emphasized the democrats are doing this, the democrats are doing this. they have politicized this thing down to the point where it is almost meaningless to some voters. and the polling right now is showing people backing off of this idea of moving forward with impeachment. so, there has been some success by what we ve seen in the house and the performances that took place over the last couple of weeks. the president spending 53 minutes on fox news this morning. do you have a job, do you work? how do you have 53 minutes on television, right? but that s the point. the most important job is to dumb down the conversation and to drive home the narrative that just as there was no collusion there is still no quid pro quo. do you think anybody believes that? yes. a lot more than we probably want to admit. and you re going to hear a lot of that this thanksgiving dinner around turkey. see, i think they believe it because donald trump said it. i think they don t care. i mean, i don t disagree on the politics. but i actually think this is different. i think that they bought there was no collusion because, as friends of donald trump will tell you privately, they don t think he is smart enough to collude with vladimir putin. but i think everybody thinks that he s dirty enough to have held over the head of a fragile democracy military aid in exchange for dirt in his bat bleep crazy conspiracy theory. we have to sneak in a break. we will pick this up on the other side. when we come back, she s got grit, she s got smarts and she s seeming leak by an overnight expert. plus, what about her old boss, john bolton trolling america today with his tweets for the first time in months? 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[ laughter ] so for the school photograph later in that week i looked like richard iii. well, i think it underscores the fact that you speak truth, that you are steely, and i truly respect that. remarkable testimony from dr. fiona hill. it closed out an intense week of public impeachment hearings. dr. hill, a russia expert who served under three president who right out the gate called out the president for pushing conspiracy theories and explaining the dual tracks of the policy coming out of the white house garnered the attention of the nation. the nation that dr. hill herself spoke highly of recognizing that it was america that provided her with opportunities she would not have had anywhere else. i grew up poor with a very distinctive working class accent. in england in the 1980s and 1990s this would have impeded my professional advancement. this background has never set me back in america. we are very lucky to be joined by her attorney. you were by her side, but you ve known her for 30 years. we met at harvard in the early 1990s. she left england where she came from a working-class background. her father s family worked in the coal mines. her mother s family worked in the sewers of northern edge lanlan england. she probably correctly concluded that she needed to leave england and come to the united states in order to fulfill her potential. of course she has since become our country s and perhaps the world s expert on putin, russian security services. she literally wrote the book on vladimir putin. and she s now served under three u.s. presidents to contribute her nonpartisan expertise and furtherance of our national security and our interests and values. how could she work for donald trump? as she said in her opening statement, she felt that she wanted to do what president trump stated that he intended to do, which is improve the bilateral relationship with russia while dealing with the serious threats that russia posed to the security of the united states. but she said in her testimony and believes that it is very important for us to figure out a way to have a stabilized relationship with russia. and so she believed the president s words that he wanted to improve the relationship. and frankly donald trump probably does want to improve the relationship. we can talk about or she can talk about because i m really here today as her lawyer. you represent her. nou navigated her through this impeachment proceeding. do you have any visibility into how she experienced flash points like helsinki? she was part of our country s intelligence agency. he stood there in helsinki next to putin and said i believe putin, not the intelligence agencies. yeah. but i think she would say there are other things that happened even at helsinki. and again further to her goal of improving the relationship, there were channels that were furthered during that process, and particularly on the arms control side which is important for all of us. so she decided to serve, and, you know, i think one of the points that she wanted me to express on your air is that over the course of the past two weeks, the american people have got to meet a number of the nonpartisan experts who have served our government in furtherance of their own security, american people security and the interests and values of our country. and so we have to be careful when we talk about conspiracy theories about those people and when we refer to the swamp in washington. there is a swamp in washington. but these fine experts are out to further our security against our adversaries. they are out to further america s position in the world and to advance our interest in values. and the american people have now had a chance to meet them. the american people have had a chance to meet them. i think it s fair to say by and large respect them. in her case a lot of them revere her. but donald trump essentially poured cow pop on her when he went on fox and friends this morning and repeated a conspiracy theory that literally 24 hours earlier she rebuked his allies in congress for doing. yes. as she said, she wants to have nothing to do with these conspiracy theories about ukraine having interfered in our elections. it was a russian disinformation campaign. again, that s being reported. was or is? is. as of today there are reports, fresh reports, that the intelligence community has renewed its warnings to the senate on precisely this issue. these are very real concerns that she has that have been validated. is she concerned that i mean, michael steele knows this version of the republican party as well as anyone, as does tim miller. is she concerned that 40% of the country doesn t believe these fine professionals because they don t believe that they don t need to see the evidence, they are not only to a trial, they have already decided how it s going to end. she went through yesterday what evidence exists for the proposition of ukrainian interference in our elections. it s really an article from politico. that s pretty much about it. so as she pointed out in her testimony, the article from politico actually doesn t say what members of the conspiracy theory about ukraine and crowdstrike say it says. it concludes that in fact there was no evidence of any top-down ukrainian government interference in our elections as opposed to what the russians did to us. she was very careful to describe herself as a fact witness. but she also was very clear both in her opening statement which i assume you guys collaborated on and in questioning to say that she felt as a fact witness she had a moral obligation to be there. does she think john bolton does too? i don t know. do you? i m just her mouth piece today. [ laughter ] i think he should be there. i ll answer for her. let me just pursue this as you have worked in government. when your and i think tom friedman wrote this about mike pompeo. when your soldiers are on the battlefield, is it honorable to leave them out there taking arrows from people like devin nunes? i worked in government. you worked in government. i think one of the most important points she made yesterday was that what was happening with gordon sondland and rudy giuliani and the president according to sondland s testimony, is that they basically co-opted u.s. foreign policy making national security decisionmaking for political purposes. she said that sondland was on a domestic political errand. and you ve been in government, you know that when you re in high office your goal is to advance the interest of the united states. it s not to advance the interest of any particular u.s. politician. and that was what was so pernicious about what happened here as she stated yesterday. but i think one of the most dramatic moments i think we might have is when she said oh, god i love that she explained what happens to women who get mad in the workplace. i m going to save that on my phone and play it every time let s watch it because i love this. i had a bit of a blowup with ambassador sondland. i had a couple of testy encounters with him. i was actually, to be honest, angry with him. and, you know, i had to say it, but often when women show anger it s not fully appreciated. it s often pushed onto emotional issues perhaps or deflected onto other people. and what she was angry about is she thought he had gone rogue. she realizes in part i think from his testimony the day before, right, that he was on an errand from the president. a domestic political errand which was not foreign policy. so, we have a hefty agenda with the ukrainians bilateral agenda that is meant from our perspective to advance our security and our interests and values, a fragile democracy that is building itself toward the west, trying to, and trying to emulate our interests and values, trying to build the rule of law. and that s been taken hostage by a re-election of the u.s. politician. that is contrary, i think she would say, to how our country is supposed to work, how our foreign policy national security decisionmaking is supposed to work, where you re supposed to be advancing the interests of our country. and she came to understand that it was the president that gordon sondland was answering to, right? that was her testimony yesterday? and that was his testimony the day before that the president told him to do these things. she was the first witness who seemed to have internalized and almost intellectualized all of the previous testimony. can i just go through with you what you think was established over these two weeks as someone who, obviously, went about that endeavor with her. do you feel that it was clearly established that a meeting was conditioned on a public commitment to conduct investigations into burisma in 2016? well, that seems to be what the evidence is. and most of that was established during time periods after she left the nsc on july 19th. do you believe that the attacks on the whistle-blower have any legal significance, or do you think the fact that everything in the whistle-blower complaint was corroborated by 17 witnesses, i think 11 of them political appointees? yeah. i mean, look, again, at some point you sort of have to look at the totality of the evidence. and the public testimony. and how it sort of came about. it was interesting, but it s not determinative of what the body of the evidence is. representing someone who i think came to symbolize what you said she hoped people would see, these nonpartisan, nonpolitical public servants who are truly the best of the best in their subject area. do you think that representing someone who is sort of the highest level of that, what do you think they want to see happen? that s a good question. i think that all of us who care about our country, most of all as opposed to who s going to win a particular election and remember these people are nonpartisan. they serve in all administrations. right. i think that, you know, again i think the most serious concern is when domestic politics start to infect that process, which has been set up to be nonpolitical. because it is intended to advance the interests of our country 300 million plus americans who depend on that part of our government to keep them safe and to advance our interests as a country in the world. so when that process gets impeded or infected and the national security process gets infected and impeded by that, by domestic politics, that is i think when many of us who have worked in this area would want to prevent. this is my last question. you ve been so generous with your time. she didn t testify to this, and i wonder if she had an answer if she d be asked. was anyone other than donald trump opposed to releasing the military aid for ukraine? well, you know, a lot of the key events with respect to military aid happened after she left. but i think as she and other witnesses testified, it was the bipartisan consensus of the ukraine policy community that the aid should be released. she had at one point opposed lethal military assistance for ukraine. but that was in an earlier point when the ukrainian defense forces she felt were not properly equipped to handle it. she was also concerned about russian escalation dominance during that time earlier. but i think it s a unanimous viewpoint that lethal military existence was important to deter the russians. it s a matter of life and death, as bill taylor absolutely for them. and also critical to our country in terms of our willingness to confront russian aggression across europe. thank you so much for spending some time with us. we are happy to have you here as fiona hill s lawyer. you are welcome to come back any day. more on fiona hill s remarkable day in the spotlight. the table jumps in on whether her old boss john bolton should testify. we will be right back. testify. we will be right back. i ve heard a lot of excuses to avoid screening for colon cancer. i m not worried. it doesn t run in my family. i can do it next year. no rush. cologuard is the noninvasive option that finds 92% of colon cancers. you just get the kit in the mail, go to the bathroom, collect your sample, then ship it to the lab. there s no excuse for waiting. get screened. ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers. upbeat music no cover-up spray here. cheaper aerosols can cover up odors in a flowery fog. but febreze air effects eliminates odors. with a 100% natural propellent. it leaves behind a pleasant scent you ll love. 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remember he told us in the briefing room that there was quid pro quo of security aid. and john bolton was against it according to fiona hill and other witnesses. he thought it was a metaphorical drug deal. he thought that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade waiting to blow up. who wouldn t want to hear more about what they said? the republicans said correctly in some cases, that some of these witnesses were second hand. bill taylor never talked to the president of the united states. alexander vindman never talked to the president of the united states. guess who did talk to the president? so let me just dig in a little bit because you have done a lot of reporting on john bolton. if john bolton, and i don t know that he s not, but if he were totally happy and at peace and at rest, would never, ever, ever having to go in behind his deputies who have been krusified and vilified by donald trump s allies in congress, people like colonel vindman, people whose voracity of their account like fiona hill have been questioned. might his lawyer have just kept his mouth shut? you reported on that letter his lawyer wrote. i think it was two weeks ago today. mr. cooper who wrote a letter saying john witnessed a lot of stuff. why did he do that? that s a great question. it s kind of a tease. he teased us back again on twitter saying i m back on twitter, i m not going to be silent anymore. but he is not going to say anything about ukraine. he decided he won t talk unless a court tells him to. but i think he s ready to testify. i don t think he would have any philosophical problem explaining his role in all this, explaining his opposition to what happened. but he wants at least the protection or the cover or the validation, if you will, of a district court judge saying you have no choice, you have to do it. that would help him both in terms of his legal concerns that he might have. it would help him politically. remember he wants i think to have a future in the republican party. he s restarted his political action committee. he doesn t want to be ostsized because he testified against the president trump. if he does testify and it s harmful to the president presumably he d like to say that a judge made him do it. peter baker, just your thoughts. we haven t had a chance to talk to you about just the sweep of testimony this week. you have covered a couple white houses. this is a story told i think most succinctly by gordon sondland and fiona hill of an operation that wasn t the black op, it wasn t the rogue op. it was the op. and the op was that donald trump ordered rudy giuliani executed, vice president pence knew and mike pompeo was involved on a phone for a mission of a meeting with donald trump and holding up military aid until investigations were announced into burisma and the bidens in 2016. yeah. it was really interesting to listen to fiona hill yesterday talk about that, how she reading the previous testimony hearing the previous testimony came to understand that it wasn t, as you say, a rogue op. it wasn t sort of an outside channel. this was what was going on, this was ordered by the president obviously he had some involvement in it. the problem of course for the investigators is they don t have many people putting words in his mouth in meetings that would help them build their case. but they say two plus two equals four. you can clearly see what s going on here for the witnesses that they did have. and i think that s a powerful conclusion to realize that it s not in fact a one-man operation on the outside. this was in fact something that a variety of people were at least aware of and had apparently no objection to. gordon sondland one thing he said that was really important. he says not one person objected to what was happening as far as his conversations with him. unbelievable week of public testimony. it wasn t surprising but it s always jarring to see donald trump swatting back at all of it on fox and friends. peter baker, thank you for all your reporting this week and for spending some time with us. we are going to sneak a break. on the other side the panel jumps in on it all. for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express is november 30th. get new deals all day during amazon s black friday sale. low prices and free shipping on millions of items. needs somebody to love the fun starts november 28. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? 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(people talking) for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express is november 30th. we re back. i know i take everyone s point on the political calculation but fiona hill left a mark. i m sorry. look. i think that what the democrats were able to do is something that the russia probe could not do, which is have some proceedings in public and put the fact witnesses in front of the public. that they could see them in work, see their opinions, and form their own judgment. in a way, mueller was fighting with one hand behind his back. it was all in secret and people had to kind of make a guess basically. and here, we can see a parade of people harkening back to a very old american tradition of bipartisan foreign policy expertise. and perhaps there are people on the far margins who didn t buy it. but i think they certainly presented a compelling portrait of people who are not there out of partisanship or ideology. but they re there for their expertise and facts. i think one of the important points hill made is people get to see her not only as a professional, an expert, but also as a human, as an american. when she talked when she admonished the lawmakers about partisanship and how that is not just making it difficult to get things done in washington but it s eroding american faith in democracy. it really let you know that there was there out of a sense of duty and certainly not out of a sense of helping one side or the other. you know, tim, i thought a subplot in the last two weeks was sort of the intersection of donald trump s attack on immigrants, legal and illegal. i mean, the smears against colonel vindman. you know, basically accusing him of espionage on fox news. the smears against him this week. i thought one of her most eloquent and underplayed comments was her defense of americans by choice. yeah. well, i got to do a disclaimer. i m such a big fiona hill fan, i m ready to amend the constitution to a foreigner can run the government. no, i agree with you. she had this earnestness of an immigrant, right? there is the zeal of the converts they say, for religions right? she has the zeal for like the original american traditions. that is lost now, right, because i think that particularly on the republican side but a little bit on both with this partisan gamesmanship that s been happening for the last week or two that sort of dismisses some of these underlying core american ideals where, you know, the congressmen, they get to live in this fantasy world where the facts benefit them. but when the facts don t benefit them, then they play this game for donald trump and fiona hill undermined that so clearly because she actually defended donald trump on a few things. and i thought that was what made her testimony so powerful. and just the fact, just really quick, that donald trump jr. and the president himself retweeted these attacks on vindman and on fiona hill implying that they are not loyal to our country. they have more loyalty to our country in their little finger nails. speaking of horrific and gross and the trump family, i want to get to your story about the buying of books and i want to get michael steele in on it. rnc spent nearly $100,000 on copies of donald trump jr. s book. there is nothing at which the trumps don t cheat. all about the business, baby. that s what it s about. this isn t about the running the country and the presidency. this is about cha-ching. getting paid. and when you bring the rnc into the the universe of trump world and specifically his campaign, it is not surprising. look, i when i became chairman in 2009, i had written a book about how to rebrand and rebuild the party and move it forward. i got criticized because i wrote a book. on how to build the party. this guy writes a book about god knows what and they go out and spend $100,000 of and here s the kicker of contributors money. this isn t money that comes out of some magical vault inside the rnc. these are the $5 and $20 donations of those very same people who are, you know, thinking that this is all gonna go right and their party s gonna do the best thing for them and this is not the swamp engaging in swampish behavior. so i don t know why anyone s surprised. i m sure if you did a little bit more digging, you d find out the rnc s spending a whole lot of money on a whole lot of other stuff that should shock the conscience at this point. you re the digger. one correction there. i think donors who got this book had actually signed up to give money in exchange for getting the book. so in some ways, for the party, it s a win/win. party gets some money. don jr. gets to sell a book. but it certainly points to this idea of the way two of the trump children, don jr. and ivanka, have been able to leverage their father s presidency to build political careers and business careers really of their own. he is a very popular surrogate for the party so i m sure it was a good deal for the rnc but they have been able to build out this brand. it s been unbelievable. you have to really accept that irony s dead that they re out there trying to attack hunter biden. to clarify, those donors gave twice. they gave before and then they gave again. so let s understand that this is again rank and file dollars. this is not anything more than that. all right. we have to sneak in our last break. we ll be right back. st break. we ll be right back. w customers. that s when fastsigns recommended fleet graphics. yeah, and now business is rolling in. get started at fastsigns.com. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.