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Think that's important. i think the stimulus was a good thing by and large. i think it was absolutely necessary. i think it saved us from getting deep noor recession. but i'm not here to give you obama talking points. >> bill: no, no. we're interested in you and what you think. last question, if the president loses to mitt romney because you're a massachusetts guy, he was the governor of the state. >> indeed. >> bill: are -- >> i know mitt romney. i met him. very nice guy. >> bill: you're not going to move out of the country or something? you be all right? >> i hope not. i think president obam...

Think that's important. i think the stimulus was a good thing by and large. i think it was absolutely necessary. i think it saved us from getting deep noor recession. but i'm not here to give you obama talking points. >> bill: no, no. we're interested in you and what you think. last question, if the president loses to mitt romney because you're a massachusetts guy, he was the governor of the state. >> indeed. >> bill: are -- >> i know mitt romney. i met him. very nice guy. >> bill: you're not going to move out of the country or something? you be all right? >> i hope not. i think president obam...

Analysis. i've said on it this network for the last eight or nine months, barring that we look at a replay of 2004 with obama with a trend line similar it to george w. bush. the american people like him, but they're open to somebody better. mitt romney is now the next massachusetts guy who maybe was a flip-flopper in the past like john kerry. can he close the sale with the american people? this is a referendum on mitt romney all aalong. we already had a referendum on obama. it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a b...

Than them. the bigger men, the ones that say there's a political plus here, get together on the same stage and get juiced by the fact they don't care why they're getting the crowds they're suddenly in front of 10,000 people, 15,000 people. romney i think is sucking up some of the energy. >> and sarah palin -- >> did that. >> same thing for mccain. >> tell us about the stand-ins chosen for debate prep. live this. >> we now know, we knew before that when president obama practices debate, the stand-in for mitt romney will be senator kerry. another massachusetts guy, somebody who's known romney fo...

There's a risk there. >> can i ask joe a quick question and then you mika, the demographics where romney is hurting, women, hispanic voters, pluck one of the big midwest states your analysis of chris christie where does he shore up romney? >> have you met chris christie's wife? she's fantastic. >> pawlenty has a great wife. >> first of all, chris christie -- >> i'm not saying he can't do these things. >> she's the perfect counter to ann romney. >> this is a pick that would be more like bill clinton's pick in 1992. >> i would agree. >> where he picked somebody like al gore that doesn't seem to ...