Two years, two years, four years, but not being completely involved and diving in. now, when it comes to 2024 the potential for her to run, there was this op-ed in the wall street journal about a month ago, co-authored trying to argue she's an outsider candidate and the low approval rating of joe biden and his vice president there may be an opening for her, but i don't think it's fair to categorize her as an outsider candidate. but prospect, looking at the bench and saying the vice president, kamala harris was supposed to be the heir to joe biden, her approval is in the tank, not just among am...