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international airports, now back here in grand rapids, we're expecting to get more snow, two to three inches, but tomorrow, that lake effect snow sets in, four to seven more inches expected, and we'll see if i get out of here, and a lot of flight troubles happening across the country. me and you, neil. >> i hear you, my friend. you're in the middle of all of that, i think i got the better part of the deal so far this year. and max, great seeing you, max gordon on that, rick reichmuth, the reason i like to talk to him about this, he's very good explaining the effects of the temperatures in all seriousness, it's a big deal when you get into the minus territory, especially at these levels. isn't it, rick? >> we talk about cold weather and they say i can handle the cold, a lot of people haven't experienced temperatures like what will be experienced in hawaii in the next couple of days and iowans have, but a lot of people from outside of the state have been descending on the state and aren't used to

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