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And i think we've taken the right set of decisions. i think it is the framing of the arguments about protecting the nhs which has bought off some of the would—be rebels because they cannot turn around and say, voting against protecting the health service, certainly in the short time, a lot of the money raised through these tax rises will go to the health service in the first instance, before being transferred over to the social care system. there are concerns whether there will be in a funding, certainly in the short term for the social care system and after the first three years, whether th...

But is this a cap on -- on income somehow on the people who receive it? >> no, there is no means testing. jeff bezos can have it if he wants. this is based on the experience in alaska where everyone in alaska regardless of income gets between $1,000 and $2,000 from a petroleum dividend. and if everyone receives it, then it's universal it's a right of citizenship. there is no stigma. there is no trying to keep track of who makes what or if there is a change in circumstances. and it makes it politically universally appealing. >> so you have a vocal organized following mr. yang. more donors than ...

Conservative. even after the tax cut. the tax cut didn't work in this election. it got overrun by immigration and what the president decided he wanted to talk about. so he gets to come back to saying look, maybe we'll take a look at this. but there is -- no one cuts medicare and social security before an election, and this president, as you already pointed out, not going to do it. with medicaid that. >> don't need congress for that. they have states who are proposing waivers to add some means testing, to add work requirements to medicaid. this is how they want to go after that and change those...

Security, like change how that works, the idea that overall they would be able to get it together to change medicare. >> there is all skiends of games they can play. >> there are. but the idea they're going to do that two years before a presidential election. >> okay, let me suggest something to take a little of the scare out of this. the average democratic congress person or senator from the rust belt, they don't like to hear the phrase, okay, the upper midwest industrial states that. >> know the average democratic vote or republican basically want social security, medicare and medicaid for a...

Said, these are not my children. so i am really terrified and i believe -- i have reason to believe that the administration knows where these children are, but they can't match up children with parents. and that there is no system, no database, no spreadsheet that is allowing them to do that. on top of that, we are now hearing stories of how parents are being forced to apply to get their children back as if these are children that they are adopting, you know, taking into foster care, they're being required to show means testing. they're being required to actually say that they are christian in...