Arizona state university. he spent a year embedded in the selection process at the university of washington, emory university, and davidson college so he could write this book "who gets in and why, a year inside college admissions." jeffrey, i am biased on this conversation. i was always a low performer on standardized tests think s.a.t.s and a.c.t tests. forced to be make it a numbers gain, right? because the criteria was what were the scores of those we accepted. that's my read of this. what's yours? >> it's a huge piece of it, right? the score they get on lsat that students get on the lsat ...