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Questions for us. it's only now that he sees some legal issues to do so. and i think that there will be more to this story before it's over. >> why now, though? why would michael come out? he dnt really have to say anything. did they -- because they gave it to "the new york times," was somebody hot on his tail? was he afraid it was going to come out in testimony? >> he had to give it to the federal election committee. his lawyer had to respond on his behalf to the complaint filed by common clause. so that statement eventually was going to get out. so i'm sure he was thinking, i'll do it on my ...

And if you noticed, he's been one of his more effective spokespersons who go out there to defend the president in his policies. >> i have something that i want to say here. i'm actually texting with michael cohen now. i want to ask you this while i get this together. michael, i want you to talk to me about this off the record west wing meeting. you were there after the "daily mail" published a picture of rob porter's ex-wife. rob porter took questions to, what, deny the allegations? >> i don't want to interrupt your texting with michael cohen, but i'm not going to talk about the content of an ...

Indirectly. the payment to miss clifford was lawful and not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone. i the not plan to provide any further comment on the fec matter or regarding miss clifford. so, there you go. what do you think of that, michael? there's a lot of questions to be answered here. >> yeah, i don't think this is going to be the last we hear about this issue. and like mark was mentioning, i think why we're hearing about this is exactly the fact that he -- that this has become a legal issue for him. my colleagues at "the wall street journal" broke this story a cou...

Conversations over who could secede him have heated up. cnn reported that the president has been calling his associates in recent days and discussing the possibilities. no decision has been made. the scrutiny increased after today's testimony by fbi director christopher wray. >> go, michael. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. and it's not just recent days, it's recent weeks. >> the big caveat here is that president trump talks to sort of anyone and everyone about the minutia of the white house and ask for feedback in how people are doing and the decisions he's made. and i should point out ...

Of justice. that's number one. now you have a porn star, as you noted, sounds so glamorous and it's not, who received $130,000 from the lawyer of donald trump, who just decided to do it out of the goodness of his heart. and to add to that, you have a white house right now that is embroiled in unbelievable amount of controversy around defending somebody who's been alleged of domestic abuse. any other president, don, would not be able to survive one of those attacks. and for donald trump, he seemed to just move on. >> el witwell, michael, you tal about the stories coming left and right. here's o...