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Cooperating. there are shade offense gray in here. >> his motivation would simply be that he wants to maintain his reputation as a stand up guy. he doesn't want to have to testify against people. he's not come to the realization that he's committed a whole bunch of crimes. the only way to save himself is to cooperate. it doesn't mean what donald trump says is he's going to make up a story. what the prosecutors are going to do and prepared to do is corroborate what his testimony will be. the only way one of these witnesses whether it's mfrts or possibly michael choen who ohen being talked about...

Pretty strong here. i don't know what i might do. obviously that is all speculation. that is from folks who know michael cohen well and worked for a long time with michael choen and understand the relationship that michael cohen has with the president. >> what are you hearing from the cohen camp about these points that katie is making? >> what i learned this morning is a source with direct knowledge told me cohen has not seen any charges yet. there seems to be, this is a swift moving story, there seems to be game of brinksmanship going on. cohen told a source of mine that he wants to wait to s...

Different avenues that the special counsel might be pursuing in the russia investigation. that the u.s. attorney's office in new york might be pursuing in connection with mr. cohen. i think it's interesting that it comes so hard upon a week of rudy giuliani on behalf of the president coming out and giving new and different answers about how michael choen was reimbursed for giving money to miss clifford for her silence. when you add in that uncertainty and you add in that he said maybe.n i don't have the facts straight and you have this new story about money coming to mr. cohen, it's red meat t...

Let me add it's different from the approach that president clinton took toward the special counsel in the 1990s. he was confrontational. he objected to witnesses. this president has been cooperating. >> i want to be precise. you're cooperating with the special counsel. you say that. are you also cooperating with the u.s. attorney in new york in this separate criminal probe. >> as i said, michael cohen and his attorney can -- >> is the white house cooperating with the u.s. attorney? >> i'm not aware of the the u.s. attorney in new york asking the white house for anything. what i'll state is tha...

Michael cohen is donald trump's personal attorney, but he has his own attorneys because -- >> he wants a restraining order against the fbi search. >> there's a lot of stuff happening legally which is preventing that is the question here did michael cohen, donald trump's attorney and a person described as his fixer pay people on donald trump's behalf to keep damaging stories out of the media. that's the sub text here. whether it was the national enquirer stories or the story about the doorman who thought he had a child with a housekeeper. is michael choen involohen invo keeping stories out of m...