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Spent more than three decades at boeing and is currently the point man for the president's base force proposal. the president's top envoy brett mcgurk also now says resignation one day after mattis, the president responding in a tweet that he had never heard of brett mcgurk and called him an obama holdover. >> leland: he replaced both men. lucas, thank you. michael hamlin writing in an op-ed about mattis and his two-year tenure. i will miss him even more for being an adult in a city that loses its collective mind over a competition with russia and china. some talk of a new cold war and many in...

>> yes. russia is saying it wasn't us. and effectively there is some wriggle room for them. saying, well, this stuff came from your labs so tell us if it is stolen or lost some way how and when. and show to us this wasn't an act that was sanctioned by the russian government. it's that request if you like that russia has refused to answer. russia on the other hand saying why don't you involve us in the investigation? you're not involving us in the investigation. in a sense if you believe the british, that would be a bit like asking an attempted killer to come and help the police investigate the...

First talks in more than two years. >> you have certainly problems with north korea but a lot of good talks are going on right now. a lot of good energy. i see a lot of good energy. i like it very much what i'm seeing. i think that we will have peace through strength. our military will be stronger than it ever was in a very short period of time. and that's my opinion. that's not the general's opinion but i think my opinion counts more right now. >> julie: joining us now michael hamlin director of foreign policy research at the brookings institution. thank you very much. michael, i want to ask ...

Russia. he is playing the national's cords, and the problem on the side of the united states is that president obama is being called weak by republicans. they're going into crucial senate race this is fall. there are mixed signal from the white house. they don't want to let russia define the remainder of obama's presidency, but this administration needs a strategy. are they going to contain putin or confront him? are they going to ignore him? we're not hearing that very clearly from the white house. >> you are hearing, michael, this really big drumbeat on the right to try to reinforce this ide...

Are not abandoning the buildings they've taken over, and they're basically flaunting, you know, the u.s. and biden's visit saying force us out of these blz. so it's dangerous situation. >> michael, i mean, you are one person who has written advocating that perhaps the united states actually should send a life force to the region, sort of a show of force to try to back russia down. now that you see that there are these military exercises taking place in the region, a, is that a smart idea? are they doing what you suggest they do? b, what would be the next step after that? >> well, my recommenda...