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President trump. and that is very powerful evidence that could either corroborate the account he's going to give or could fill in blanks and could possibly be used to raise questions about his testimony. so i -- you know -- as i understand it, the fbi still has not given them up. it's not clear that they are going to -- >> let's ask. jim sciutto. do they have those memos yet? is that accurate? >> no, they don't, apparently. we don't know if that's because the special counsel is in effect taking over, right, and saying that they need it for their own investigation. it is a fair question. and mi...

I was with the "new york times" at the time. i had "new york times" in-house counsel, david mccraw advising in the backgrounds but then i had three crack attorneys. and they ran circles around marc kasowitz' team. i think the issue that raises now is the president has leaned back into his comfort zone and hired somebody who is has never defended someone who is the subject of a congressional investigation and mired in a special counsellor's role at the department of justice. and there's a real issue as to whether or not kasowitz is the right person for this role. >> a good question whether kaso...

Either conspiracy theories. michael the words that you used to describe cuomoey's testimony are extraordinary and momentous. what's the key question you have? >> first of all, i do think we are on the eve of what could be some of the most dramatic testimony we've seen in years. i'll defer to david and others on this, but for historical precedent to have -- assuming comey is going to testify as has been reported, to have a senior u.s. government official basically go before congress under oath and call the president of the united states a liar, i think you would have to go back to john dean and...

Is so close to trump in so many ways that that investigation certainly won't have the appearance of impartiality and may not be impartial itself so i've called today on jeff sessions to recuse himself and if you agree with that, tv audience, tell your senator or congressman to do it. >> almost every single day seems to bring new questions about the possible connections between the trump world and the kremlin. yesterday we told you the strange tale of a back channel plan for ukraine and russia favorable to the kremlin and brokered by two unlikely trump associates. first is michael kohn and th...

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