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with a robust set of laws, we can significantly limit damage. why can't we do that with guns? -- on that point. and they always fall back on the same argument, the constitution doesn't guarantee you are right but it does guarantee your gun right. a well regulated militia being necessary to the free stay, the right to the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. the second amendment. argue that the second amendment makes america unique, exceptional, and they're right. apart from the uk, we don't have the second amendment there, it's a right that doesn't exist in canada or ...

Happens on capitol hill but it is a lot of the politics these day -- driven by governors and, we're happy to have this discussion about what people like michael thomas used to do in stockton, california. we appreciate both of you coming on the. show we're out of time. michael tabs, otis rowley, thank you very much. still ahead, when you're defending policies allowed a teenager to mask or children with an assault style weapon, it's easy to mess up your talking points. that's what happens the texas governor greg abbott. it's the tale of two abbots after the break. after the break. wealth is brea...