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hearings. and there are big developments tonight on that front. you'll also hear from former trump white house press secretary stephanie grisham. she, like mulvaney, resigned from her administration post on the day our capitol came under attacked. stay tuned for both of them. the select committee, meanwhile, apparently just finalized plans for what could be its most critical testimony yet. our sources say the committee struck a deal for a closed door, recorded interview with former white house counsel pat cipollone set to happen on friday. he met with members in april for an inform...

cnn tonight, there is so much news on the multiple ongoing investigations into donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. he will spend the whole hour unpacking it all this evening. we have not one but two former trump white house insiders who are going to help us do it tonight. in a moment you will hear from former trump acting chief of staff nick mulvaney. his message for some of his fellow republicans, pay attention. to the january 6 hearings. and big developments tonight on that front. we will also hear from former trump white house press secretary stephanie grisham sh...

Attorney, el lot williams, and miles taylor, former chief of staff to the homeland security secretary during the trump administration. miles, you had a strong reaction when we were listening to the mulvaney interview when he said he saw nothing illegal or immoral in his time in the west wing. true or no? >> let me say a couple things. one, i do think it's important that mick and people like mick are starting to speak up. and that shows you cassidy hutchinson testimony is making people scared. there was no one in mick's job during the trump administration who did not see him do things that were...

Trump was inaugurated right up until january 6th. she worked directly with both the former president donald trump and first lady melania trump. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you make of the dysfunction mick mulvaney described? >> i think that what mick had to say was direct, and it does seem that towards the end there perhaps mark was more disengaged than usual and allowed some pretty bad actors to surround the president. >> do you agree with mick mulvaney's assessment of who is to be believed in the context of these hearings. he suggested he would...

Miles, you had a pretty strong reaction when we were listening to the mulvaney interview here together where he said that he and i am paraphrasing so nothing illegal or immoral in his time in the west wing. yes or no, true or not? >> let me say a couple things, one i do think it is important that mick and people like mick are speaking up and that is cassidy hutchinson and making people scared, it is good that he is out there however i would add that there is no one , no one that was in mick's job who did not see him do things that were immoral, unethical, or tried to do things that were illega...