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Smart reframing of this whole debate. >> it's not new from the president. we've seen the president bashing the nfl, bashing players. is this a winning strategy for him? i mean, he can go up there and say, the ratings are way down. the ratings were already down. your kids don't play football. my kids don't play football. when my husband was growing up, he loved football. it was his sport. i don't have a single friend whose sons don't play football. it has nothing to do with colin kaepernick and the flag. it has to do with head injuries. is the president conflating issues to make it a winning ar...

Initiative, at least his base and his supporters have been primed little by little to believe that. there's a countervailing opinion this could backfire. while his base likes this, sort of people who are more rooted in a reality-based community for lack of a better word, it increasingly makes him seem unhinged and can backfire on him. >> i want to bring my panel in to weigh in. chris wilson is ceo of wpa intelligence and gop pollster. my friend midwin charles, attorney for the law firm midwin charles. liz plank, the executive producer of "divided states of women." welcome to all. chris, last n...

The vice president will speak here today along with mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. together they will lay a wreath as part of the ceremony. that, sort of the one big bipartisan moment we'll see here today, leading up to the funeral tomorrow at the national cathedral. where we'll hear from a more bipartisan list of speakers. this today is very much the old school washington senate part of mccain's career that's going to be honored here today and the guest list and speakers reflect that, stephanie. >> a very proud part of his career. chris wilson, midwin charles back with me. former vice preside...

Let's talk about allen weisselberg and what we know about him, his closeness to the president, and what this says about where this might be headed. >> he's the consular of finances, which is never what you want to -- i'm going to do midwin charles backward a few times. >> everyone does. i've been dealing with it since first grade. >> felipe, continue. >> you know, the thing is, what i don't understand is he didn't just -- they didn't just come up to him yesterday and say, hey, you want immunity? i don't go up to someone on the street and say how do i get to 30 rock? clearly they've been talkin...

In washington and on capitol hill -- >> that's something that will be difficult i think for a lot of americans to figure out. there's an inherent plasticity to campaign finance which we're seeing play out. >> only need to worry about 12 of the 300 americans. it won't get that far. the mark of loyalty is not being loyal to someone when times are good, when trump wins and when cohen is raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars to do effective lobbying. loyalty is when things are bad. you stick with it. and these people they use him as a meal ticket. they were on his coattails. now that there ar...