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Will not violate their conscience. all those poor people have to be taken care of somewhere they will end up on the state medicaid rolls. this is a moras, is that i don't think the president had any idea about. if he did it's really unconscionable. >> mike: you've been joaned in the letter to the secretary from greg abbott of texas, allan wilson of south carolina, but i understand you have other states that have now joined with you in the potential lawsuits. how many attorneys general are part of your action? >> well, just couple days, we're at 12 states. this will be very similar to obamacare...

Sebelius secretary of health, she's a catholic, but there's catholic and catholic. one thing she has done or said indicates that her faith is very important to her. >> mike: such a pleasure to have you here. it's important to mention that one thing if individual catholic is at odds with his or her church, but significant issue when the government is at odds with the church in direct violation of not the third, fourth or 10th amendment but the first amendment because it that was important to the founders to establish that government can neither prohibit nor can it prefer a religious practice. t...

Matter of policy this is bad policy. as matter of morality needs to change. which is why i think the president for political calculation made his choice to have that press conference yesterday say, okay, we're backing off. but you still leave us responsible for helping to pay those insurance companies that in turn are going to take our money to pay for things that we object to morally. by the way this is not new, as you well know having been through state government. in knock state i as taxpayer am paying to 43,000 abortions through medicaid. i object to that as i object to federal policy tryi...

>> mike: would you describe for our audience the difference between this lawsuit and original lawsuit against obamacare. some are going to say, i thought you were already suing the obama administration. what's unique? >> the obamacare lawsuit is based on congressional power under the commerce clause. can they mandate the perform of insurance, that is the obamacare lawsuit the heart of it. not just about health insurance about the breadth of congressional power. can they make us eat broccoli for breakfast because it's healthier than the donut. how far can congress go. that is the lawsuit. this ...

About not about contraception or -- it's par of it. it's about government intersection in religion. the government needs to leave us alone allow us to worship as we see fit not force people to violate their conscience. that's what this lawsuit will be about. >> mike: i appreciate you're being here with us very much. i wish you could promise keep us posted on the progress we want to be following it. great interest to every american even if they disagree with my point of view truly a point that they got to be interested in thank you for joining us. [ applause ] last week we took you inside the p...