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We didn't know at the time -- was mocked and minimized as a conspiracy nut? >> no. i don't think it's embarrassing. i think there were really two schools of thought and, sadly, it seems to come down along political lines. there were people, i would add to what rich said, i do agree with a couple of things. you know, journalists are supposed to report the facts and, second, there were ties to negative feelings about former president donald trump. but the ties to him went further, and it wasn't just about the lab leak, it was about the way he was characterizing the virus and the anger and resent...

And frustrated when he just skirts right by every day, and he doesn't seem to be paying a price for it, i guess precipitously, in the polls. howard: yeah. the president doesn't take many questions and abe the president trump working the line outside the helicopter, whatever, he, of course, would punch back at hostile questions. so the atlantic magazine is openly calling for some democratic, anybody, to challenge joe biden on the grounds that most of the party, polls show, private interviews show that he's considered too old and would have trouble winning a second term. but who's going to want ...

Talking about the possibility of a lab leak at wuhan, and you say much of that had to do with donald trump. explain. >> yeah. well, first of all, the media's supposed to report the information. it's not supposed to try to control the information. and that's what we've seen in the recent years, and this is perhaps the most flagrant and worse example of that. and one of the reasons that the media kid this, they just assumed because they don't like and distrust donald trump that he must have been wrong when he suggested this was at least an open question. and one of the things you should learn as...

Andif you think of it in terms of a company and you put on the business person, ceo's cap, where is that the line where you say, okay, i've got to shut this down until we have more ed, until we concern -- evidence, until we know this is true? >> they should have a broadly first amendment-based standard, incitement and things of that nature shouldn't exist. otherwise there should be a free debate, and you shouldn't be afraid of that, and it's the what you sign up for if you live in the united states, at least that used to be the case. howard: i've got to get a break. leslie, i'm sorry to hear a...

At the time -- >> yes. in august they said that this was a reach out to potential voters -- howard: expensive and unfair mistake. >> exactly. howard: how about now? >> and now they're basically e stenographers for the biden administration's brief by the solicitor general to the supreme court. so they're saying, yeah, he shouldn't have done this, it was a bad idea. but the supreme court shouldn't rectify the error, and the problem is that this is a separation of powers issue. and if the president can do this breathtaking action, then what is the court for? if the court doesn't hold him to the c...