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Of it. although they may be not done with it. >> i think for reasons i can't entirely figure out i think the whole prosecutorial team here, and you have to assume that mueller and the southern district know what the other hand is doing. they decided, the prosecutors decided they wanted to lay down a marker with cohen. i don't think they're finished with cohen by any means. >> that's what it feels like to me. >> i think you're right to some extent also that cohen might be und error the illusion or self-delusion that somehow he's still standing -- this is like smoke signals going up between muel...

Elections is something that actually the fcc should be looking into. they're preparing for impeachment and they're trying to win hearts and minds. >> ken, they did so, i imagine not being a lawyer but a layperson, at some professional peril. listen to what mimi rocah said. "i suppose it could attract some attention, american bar association type stuff." does the base need that much bolstering that these guys have to dog and pony it across xm radio? >> brian, it's very much a part of the pr strategy that the president himself has led and set the tone for, and it just shows frankly how far rudy ...

Room back in april. for months, as you may know, an independent lawyer, a so-called special master who happens to be a former federal judge, reviewed all the seized boxes of documents and files to decide what should be offlimits in the investigation. her review is now complete, which means it's now up to prosecutors to decide whether they will bring charges. it's a lot to get to. so we will with our lead-off panel on a thursday night. mimi roca is back with us, former assistant civil attorney for the southern district of new york. lisa larabek, national politics reporter for the associated pre...

We're hearing 50% of the argument on a sit-down with mueller. mueller's side doesn't talk and mueller's side doesn't leak. >> right. lawyers are generally not out debate their client's legal strategy in public which leads one to believe this is not so much a legal strategy as a pr strategy. our reporting has told us that the president's lawyers are not eager for him to testify. but there's also concern from some in the white house that if he appears unwilling to speak to mueller, that could look like he has something to hide. that might not -- that could be politically lethal, in a way. so par...

Longer they delay, the more disapproval of mueller and the investigation seems to rise. but as you pointed out at the beginning of the show, we're only hearing 50% of the story. so while those numbers have been moving a certain way, the big question is what happens once the public starts hearing the other half of the story, do we see those numbers change. polling moves. >> mimi, another associate of roger stone is about to receive or has received a subpoena to come in and talk to the mueller team. this is now a line of associates, the stars and moons around roger stone. i think i've asked you ...