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And utter chaos and a man at the top who's clearly not in control. >> a historic turn of events and what this means for putin. nick paton walsh, thanks so much. let's go to seen your correspondent fred pleitgen. talk about this. prigozhin rose as a close ally for putin for many, many year. he was once a wealthy oligarch and effective leader of a private military group and now he's challenging putin's grip on power p. >> yeah, the leader of a whole empire if you will, am rachl it really is a rise that's also unprecedented inside russia, but certainly one that also speaks to how vladimir putin c...

Long does this go on for? every hour essentially calls into question putin's control of russia, and more importantly, possibly, too, for how the war in ukraine will play out in the hours ahead. >> yeah, nick. authoritarianism or totalitarianism does not allow for this type of confrontation. what potentially is next? are we talking potential civil war? you say this is now prigozhin v putin? is this a coup attempt? how would you frame this? >> this is no doubt prigozhin versus putin. i think it would be naive for prigozhin to think he could take him out. where does it go now snit combs down to r...

And putin called for prigozhin to be arrested and russian troops to stop him. and very few if any wanted to fight with prigozhin. i think it's a very trouble be sign that most of the elite russian troops joined prigozhin in his march to moscow. >> so what does this mean for yevgeny prigozhin, gary? is his life now at risk? is putin and his forces, are they still going to try to kill him? >> probably. look, we're talking about mafia, and prigozhin is a career criminal and now is a war criminal. and whether there is some kind of a reveal that guarantees -- a deal that guarantees his life or moon...

General staff cowards and traitors, and their children cowards and traitors. and it's just been a further escalation every time he speaks, there's something more outrageous he says, in part, to get attention. the important thing to note is how dependent putin is on him now. you described in the opening of this segment, this is putin's private army. the success they had in bakhmut, the russian government itself just a couple of weeks ago attributed that success, at least in part to wagner. so putin's dependent on those soldiers that prigozhin leads. >> it's amazing. thank you very much, ambassa...

But will that be enough given russia's evident vulnerabilities? my guest is vetreran russian foreign policy analyst and kremlin adviser sergey karaganov. is putin's invasion turning into a longterm disaster for russia? sergey karaganov in moscow, welcome to hardtalk. good afternoon. good afternoon and welcome and let me ask you a simple question, after almost a year of war in ukraine is russia