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Soldiers out of the line. this is an opportunity for the ukrainians to identify those gaps and mount the force -- concentrate the force so they can go in and go across those russian lines. >> the ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, says putin, in his words, is obviously very afraid. those are zelenskyy's words. how do you think the ukrainian president views putin's grasp on power tonight? >> you're right to make the contrast, wolf. we remember -- you remember, you saw, you reported how zelenskyy stayed in kyiv. when the russian tanks, soldiers, were on the outskirts of kyiv, outskirts of...

Free-floating electron. he's all over the place. what you're talking about with prigozhin and schoygu, neither are professional military men. they have not grown up in the military. they're play acting in this. they have not subjugated their forces to the security of russia. they have forces that are pledged to them. it's phenomenal. i was thinking as i was watching the film, some of which you're showing right now, the soldiers that are walking around as part of the wagner group under prigozhin's command, what the legislation they thinking now? what's their mission? what's their mission set? i...

Joining us to discuss all of these unprecedented developments is gary kasparof, the russian pro democracy activist and chess champion. gary, thank you so much for joining us. the kremlin, as you know, now says prigozhin has a guarantee from putin that he can leave the country for belarus in this deal to stopgap wagner's ad -- stop wagner's advance to moscow. would you trust a guarantee from putin? >> not for a second. and i agree with ambassador taylor who said a few minutes ago ton this program we know vey little. a scratch on the surface. so much that we'll learn later. i don't believe that ...

What we've seen throughout the day. helicopters shot out of the sky, it seems. wagner very freely advancing almost halfway to moscow if not further on judging by statements from local officials. unimpeded, frankly, as they move, looking like they were possibly going to arrive in the capital and pose a genuine military threat to a russian heartland now stripped bare of its normal defensive forces who are currently fighting inside ukraine. a very confusing 24 hours. it certainly leaves us aware that putin is not as in control of russia as he was 24 hours ago. it's going to be hard for the kremli...

Congressman jason crow of colorado. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. first, have you had a chance to get a briefing on these truly historic and stunning events of the past 24 hours? >> i haven't received an official briefing yet. i actually just arrived back in colorado from my time in washington. i have been tracking the wagner group and the work of prigozhin for a very long time. he's been involved in africa, in the middle east, and of course the war in ukraine for some time, been a key player in this conflict. >> the kremlin says there is a deal right now for the wagner chief ...