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Jeffrey, let me go to you. one of these scenes in this book according to what jamie has is, you know, there's this john dowd is convinced that trump is going to perjure himself if he testifies in front of the special counsel bob mueller. he does this mock interview with the president which according to woodward the president fails this. still, though, the president wants to testify and at some point he says, what, do you think i was struggling? he was because he failed the test. so dowd and jay secolo go over to bob mueller with the goal to communicate to the special counsel that there is no w...

I want to see if there was corrupt intent. despite dowd's efforts, trump continued to insist he could testify. i think the president of the united states cannot be seen taking the fifth, trump said. dowd's argument was stark. there's no way you can get through these. don't testify. it's either that or an orange jump suit. >> i mean, that's what people had been speculating for months. now we actually see what that conversation was like. dowd's concerns are what the president's personal lawyers still believe, that it's going to be problematic if the president chooses to testify. it kind of shows...

Little more disgusting than yesterday. >> lindsey graham was asked and he said, you know, this doesn't look good for folks in the south if this is what you're saying i mean, should he be concerned? >> first of all, i think 90% of the democrats who hate donald trump are not going to change their opinion. the 90% of republicans who agree with what the president is doing are not going to change their opinions. >> down to 78 in the last poll. >> that will go back up. >> i don't know. >> but here's what's happening with the country. people understand what they voted for with donald trump because we...

Personal ger h perjure himself. they did a mock interview. trump failed and in the book he described trump as a quote, f'ing liar and he would end up in an orange jump suit if he testified. doud then goes to mueller and what happened and how crucial is this moment? >> the quote in this book that the president would end up in an orange jump suit, woodward reports that john doud actually said that directly to the president. he didn't say the bleeping liar to him. woodward reports that's what he was thinking but couldn't say, but he's so convinced that the president is incapable of telling the tr...

Latest in misrepresentations based on anonymous statements. i do not intend to address every inaccurate statement attributed to me but i want to make this clear, there was no so-called practice session or reenactment of a mock interview at the special counsel's office. further, i did not refer to the president as a liar and i did not say he was likely to end up in an orange jumpsuit. it was a great honor and distinct privilege to serve president trump. so wrapping up there, john kelly, chief of staff saying he didn't call the president an idiot, john dowd his lawyer saying he didn't call the p...