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governor, thanks for taking a few minutes. >> steve, always a pleasure. >> let me just ask you, do you have any recourse to stop these states from deciding to cancel primaries and caucuses? >> i don't know about a lawsuit. there are some precedents for this during presidential years, but i don't think there are precedents when it was a successful two-term republican governor running against the incumbent who was reelected with 71% of the vote and left office with a 75% popularity rating in his state that would be me, of course. so i don't think -- i think these precedents don't really hold up. i think the money rationale is kind of a phony -- it's too expensive to hold an election. elections are the most important thing we do in a democracy. and even if this has happened before, it is anti-democracy. and a vote is the ultimate expression of choice. there are a lot of republican women who disagree with the president on issues like let's say in cases of rape, does a woman really have to carry the
this during presidential years, but i don't think there are precedents when it was a successful two-term republican governor running against the incumbent who was reelected with 71% of the vote and left office with a 75% popularity rating in his state that would be me, of course. so i don't think -- i think these precedents don't really hold up. i think the money rationale is kind of a phony -- it's too expensive to hold an election. elections are the most important thing we do in a democracy. and even if this has happened before, it is anti-democracy. and a vote is the ultimate expression of choice. there are a lot of republican women who disagree with the president on issues like let's say in cases of rape, does a woman really have to carry the rapist's child to term? that's what the president and recent state statutes in the south expressed. to me, that's taking women back to the stone age, and people should have a vote on that. >> what is this do to your
bill burton is a former deputy white house secretary. and ann is with the "washington post." okay, let's start with donald trump. mona, i'll let you attempt to explain the rationale. tom davis came up with the money rationale. what good does come out of this for mitt romney? >> well, you know, he may be taking the view and he did say something along these lines that, well, you know, somebody endorses me that doesn't necessarily mean i endorse them, which was the ronald reagan approach in 1980. it doesn't quite work here because he's doing appearances with him and fund-raisers with trump. so it's a little mysterious. and i think that romney over the last couple of weeks has really had a series of home runs. he's been doing very well. this is a misstep and i can only conclude that it might be that he is afraid that conservative voters out there like trump and believe that trump is a conservative and therefore he doesn't want to -- >> that's the other thing. when did donald trump become a