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>> well, i think -- i think that's the difference, what you just said. he has built up goodwill. donald trump couldn't build up good will in a mongol horde. certainly biden's leading the polls has been durable. it's outlasted all of these so far. again, it's -- again, it's august of 2015. and who knows what will happen. but i would be wary if i were the people running his campaign of giving him unguarded moments, because he's proven he doesn't know what to do with them. >> natalia? >> yeah, have i some theories around that. i think name recognition is a big deal. let's not underestimate that. ...

Apparently the only debate prep donald trump has gone occurred on tv tonight with debate coach bill o'reilly. >> the great wall of china, built a long time ago, is 13,000 miles. you're talking about big stuff. we are talking peanuts by comparison to that. mexico will pay for the wall. i will make sure it gets done properly -- >> by the way, do you know why they built the great wall of china, who they wanted to keep out? >> lots of people -- >> no, no. the mongol horde. that might come up. credit me for giving you the answer. >> all right. good. >> by the end of the debate prep session the rich...