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And then when asked about, you know, the other yearbook with his nickname being coonman, other people did it, it's thin. it is so thin. and you have a state that's still trying to deal with the effects after verb of charlottesville. charlottesville is now a verb because of racism. you cannot say that it's over and you're going to govern well. this is more than an albatross around his neck. it's an albatross around the state's neck. he might be a recovering racist or what have you, but it doesn't look good, and he needs to step down. >> michael, there was this other moment during the presser th...

In retrospect, it would have been good if he had three or four days to present evidence. i think the burden of proof shifted to him. he had to prove it. but if he could come up with evidence in three or four days, then it seems to me that we could take a second look at this. but the way it's gone, i'm afraid he's just let it get out of control. and now it's completely beyond him, when you have those two major senators, two national figures in his own party, asking him to step down, you can't survive that. >> there was another moment when we look at just how he's handled this and if he's made a...

Howie: the governor is in a position of saying i didn't pose in black face. but i did as michael jackson. do you want to see my moon walk? >> there is a conversation, i don't think it's a perfect parallel with what we went threw with brett kavanaugh. totally different thing. i think he should resign. i don't think it's acceptable. but at the same time i'll say if your wife has to stop you from moon walking in the middle of an apology press conference, it did not go well. the fact that he was talking about putting shoe polish under his cheeks, it was unbelievable. howie: people are saying it wa...

A michael jackson contest because i knew how to moon walk and a reporter said can you still moon walk and he intertaibd the idea of moon walking. his wife said no, no, no. it's a train wreck. >> we have prominent democrats calling on him to resign, joe biden, clinton, booker, everyone from his party is denouncing him. >> the two seniors with both senators from virginia, the most senior congressman -- they're all democrats. i would prefer to find a list of democrats that isn't con temming him. i watched the press conference. he came off as earnest, someone who is not a racist, he admitted to ha...

Means. and so, yeah, now they are walking back and saying -- >> walking back -- let's get our walk back together. >> the two walk backs. >> a lot of steps. you need your fitbit. >> moon walking. >> fitbit and you could get extra steps. >> so they are saying we are meeting and there what sarah sanders said the benchmarks to be taken that they are going back to what the south koreans and kim jong-un said he would do which is commit to denuclearization and not be okay with the joint exercise between the u.s. and south korea and otherwise accept there will still be sanctions and not test anything....