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"hardball" round table. the iowa caucuses are only about, wait for it. >> 900 days away give or take. it is no too early to look at the democrat process. the list of names highlights a big potential problem for democrats. quote, old but well-known versus fresh but anonymous. that's how the 2020 democratic presidential field is shaping up so far and it is causing anxiety within a party that is starting to acknowledge that president donald trump could be harder to beat for reelection than the base would like to admit. among the names is elizabeth warren, joe biden, bernie sanders who would be 79...

Grants on localities abiding by that federal statute. >> shannon: let's talk about miami as an example. it had been flagged on this list of potential problem sanctuary city areas. there are about 300 give or take -- after president trump was elected and they knew what was coming they changed some of their policies, brad, they are cooperating on certain things with detentions and notifying the feds. now the doj says great you are in compliance and you'll get your money. does the carrot and stick -- looks like it has worked with miami. >> the problem with this approach, though, is the fact it vi...

>> absolutely. because it is not a crime or evidence of a crime to make a mistake. a good-faith error. if you say something and it turns out to be wrong, that is certainly not evidence of any sort of criminal intent. what makes it a potential problem is, if it's determined by a grand jury or by other fact finders that the president intentionally put out a false statement and that's a factual question that mueller will want to interview a lot of witnesses to determine where the truth lies. >> does it surprise you the president would get involved and that his advisers would allow him to get invo...

Is the big news and just if i may say this, i think we're going to see trump testify under oath about a minute after we see his tax returns. he would be just so wrong to put himself under that kind of potential problem. >> matt, do you agree? >> yeah, i agree with everything jeff said. i think, number one, the media does hype stuff, obviously. when you have 24 hours to fill, and you're competing, you know, vigorously for ratings against other networks, you end up hyping things. pretty bad for democracy overall, but it's the world we live in. having said that, i think this administration is in ...

Kushner held himself out as representing the government of the united states of america. extremely unlikely. kislyak is no drop. that is a potential crime. if he held himself out and if the russians took action in response to what he said. that would be the eequivalent of a private person conducting his own foreign policy. the other potential problem and i'm really, really looking between the lines here is when the fbi did their background check on jared kushner, they asked him, did you meet with any foreign officials in this time period? if he did not tell them about ambassador kislyak, well ...