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2016, that campaign very clearly, 2015, even, when we noticed right away that the president, the now president has a real habit of name calling and sort of bullying and talking in a way, talking over people. it really is a singular, you know, way of campaigning. and i think springsteen here has a point that the 2020 candidates, with the exception possibly of joe biden, who's kind of a mud slinger himself, but we don't know if he's going to run, might have trouble finding somebody who can really sort of go toe to toe in that way that we got used to seeing donald trump campaign. and that could b...

Between you two here. >> more wisdom won. >> more aspirin between the knees, who knows. >> that will not be forgotten. >> i don't know whether a couple of points are enough. look at the polling in the super tuesday states. santorum is clobbering romney in ohio. gingrich is going to do well in the south. i mean, you know, i think that the romney campaign has now reached critical mess because what can he do at this point? you know -- >> what about just going negative again like he did before? >> i think that santorum came up with a pretty good antidote with that ad of the, you know, the phony mi...

>> i don't know whether a couple of points are enough. look at the polling in the super tuesday states. santorum is clobbering romney in ohio. gingrich is going to do well in the south. i mean, you know, i think that the romney campaign has now reached critical mess because what can he do at this point? you know -- >> what about just going negative again like he did before? >> i think that santorum came up with a pretty good antidote with that ad of the, you know, the phony mitt romney going around, you know, shooting mud at everybody. i think that that's become part of romney's baggage at thi...

We'll go back to that in a minute. >> the thing is i don't know if a couple points are enough. you look at the polling in the super tuesday states, and tan tomorrow is clobbering romney in ohio. gingrich is going to do well in the south. i think that the romney campaign is now reached critical mass. what can he do at this point? >> what about just going negative again like he did before? >> i think that santorum came up with a good ant dote for that. shooting mud at everybody. that's become part of romney's bag at this point. he's a mud slinger and he has nothing positive to say. >> here he is...

Spending and zero to cut spending. santorum even voted to raise his own pay and joined hillary clinton to let convicted felons vote. rick santorum, big spender, washington insider. a megapanel time. imogene, jonathan, and rob are with us. again, i watched these ads, jonathan, and i can't help but think about my samurai in the cave three months after the war ended swinging his sword wildly at the wall. here we are with a big spender, insider, and a mud slinger. right. and meanwhile america is on a totally different page that we talk about all the time but it is interesting to watch. right. well...