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2016, that campaign very clearly, 2015, even, when we noticed right away that the president, the now president has a real habit of name calling and sort of bullying and talking in a way, talking over people. it really is a singular, you know, way of campaigning. and i think springsteen here has a point that the 2020 candidates, with the exception possibly of joe biden, who's kind of a mud slinger himself, but we don't know if he's going to run, might have trouble finding somebody who can really sort of go toe to toe in that way that we got used to seeing donald trump campaign. and that could b...

You have -- i had one top republican aide send me a paragraph from "the new york times" story off of the new yorker story looking at how they had trouble finding somebody who had a firsthand account that lined up with mrs. ramirez's story that she told in the new yorker i can feel it sort of trending potentially away to a hardening of positioning for republicans, but it still -- we're only a couple hours into this still and it's a real question in my mind if this is something that's going to ultimately pull republicans together, harden them, make them want to fight for brett kavanaugh or if th...