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Loyalty to their boss, about money, about their future, and they are thinking you know what, i might be able to escape because i might get a pardon or some other belief down the road. so there is a whole variety of people, a whole variety of motives. when your prosecutor, it's figuring it out. >> it's figuring out the humanity than undergirds even their positions. i have to ask you, because i think this is relevant to your experience, the new york times is up with a new piece, a long piece, comparing what we are learning in terms of obstruction in the mar-a-lago case with the obstruction that ...

In terms of the case, it is hard to not see this as very strong. you don't have to be or to go to law school to know he had classified documents, he was hiding them, they were found after an fbi search, you have people who say he lied to me and told me to lie to the government, he told me to get rid of tapes, surveillance tapes. this is a pretty rudimentary obvious scheme. this is where i think a jury is not going to be like okay this is an arcane issue and why should i care? there it's this why should i care, all you have to do is look at the description of the classified documents. i was in ...

From all of our colleagues across the networks that nbc news, thank you for staying up, late be good this, weekend and i will see at the end of monday. >> in a federal court in miami at 10:30 am on monday. and then on tuesday the graduate special counsel jack smith has been using in his investigation into trump's attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, that jury is expected to meet again, which could mean more testimony or it could mean a possible indictment. and as much as everyone is and has been holding their breath to see what happens in that investigation, let's be clear th...

>> a vindication, not that we found, or vindicated him, but in terms of from his point of view he had no political consequences. i would go back further. you have somebody who has lived through decades and has managed to escape with no consequences, legally. and so this is really an unusual situation for him, because he is now out of control of the situation and to courtrooms soon to be i think for courtrooms, that is going to be an unusual experience, where it's not just a civil case where he can just by his way out of it, because just talking about money. i think it's a lifetime. i would go ...

Every one of these cases is bogus, just like the mueller case was bogus, just like the phone call to ukraine was perfectly fine, two bogus impeachments, this is outrageous. one last thing, although it is not the last thing, but one other thing i want to say, donald trump today is the leading candidate for the republican nomination for president. can you believe a local d.a. knows that he doesn't have the law, state or federal on his side, and is trying to cripple the nomination for the presidency? can you believe a federal prosecutor appointed by biden's attorney general is trying to bring bog...