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Concerned, that's an entirely different price range. this is all germaine because the president complains with prices constantly from the cost of the u.s. emi? jerusalem to the cost of the mueller investigation. phil did some price comparisons, all based on publicly available numbers. he reports through end of march, the cost of mueller effort has been $16.7 million. by comparison, the president's 17 trims to mar-a-lago have run up a tafb $17 million thus far. remember, at $1 million a throw, mar-a-lago is a big ticket travel item. motor kads to and from, offshore security provided by the coas...

Of, say, the mueller investigation. philip mudd over at "the washington post" did some pras comparisons recently. he reports through the end of march the cost of the mueller effort has been $16.7 million. by comparison the president's 17 trips to mar-a-lago have run up a tab of $17 million thus far. remember at a million dollars a throw, mar-a-lago is a big ticket travel item. it means air force one down and back, motorcades to and from. it means offshore security provided by the cost guard merchandise everything else provided by state police, local cops. it could be argued the mueller investi...

Ashley, you and i have talked about this before. the president feels he does better when he's playing the victim. and this current strategy is fine until it isn't. what i mean is it's giuliani on television because there's no one for the mueller effort. they don't leak. they don't speak until they do. and it reminds you of the kind of terrible swift sword and the imbalance of power the government suddenly when they rise up and release another tranche of indictments or subpoenas, they get the power back. >> that's exactly right. so what you're seeing now is rudy giuliani is basically the presid...

The victim. and this current strategy is fine until it isn't. what i mean is it's giuliani on television because there is no one for the mueller effort. they don't leak. they don't speak. until they do. and it reminds you of the kind of terrible swift sword and the imbalance of power, the government suddenly when they rise up and release another tranche of indictments or subpoenas, they get the power back. >> that's exactly right. what you're seeing now is rudy giuliani is basically the television's id. it doesn't matter that he's a wildly unreliable narrater. he gives interviews where he says...

Really even other crimes that have been discovered. i think it's going to be so much more in depth. >> malcolm if i could talk you out of academia and back into working for the home team and told you you had to pick a trench for the mueller effort and work for one of those sub counsels, what area would you volunteer for duty in? >> oh, that's a fascinating question. you know, there are two events that i think that we haven't heard from, that i find absolutely fascinating. when i first heard them, i found them stunning. first was jared kushner's meeting at the russian embassy along with general...