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And, two, the dossier as we now know was not the animating factor for not just the original surveillance but the consistent. it is important to keep saying this. the consistent are yrenewal ove course of a year against carter paige. i just want to pick up one thing on what scott says. scott says all this riffraff was hanging around the campaign. like, is there a reason why that's not happening? or is there a reason why that riffraff, those people with the russian ties, are with trump? at some stage, it is like you have to think there is no coincidences, right. the reason why donald trump is no...

To donald trump, the people playing to his desire to undercut mueller have convinced themselves that somehow this memo and what is in if it will raise a larger question about the legitimacy of the entire mueller investigation. that is what they hope. there is a certain amount of circular thinking and inside of the oval wishful thinking going on here. >> by the way, it seems at least short-term, isn't trump's strategy working? >> it depends on who you ask. >> is it a political strategy of muddying the waters on mueller, is it working for him? >> i think it is working in some ways because the re...

That despite republican criticism, mueller would remain. >> have you seen good cause to fire special counsel mueller? >> no. >> he also faced tough question over the fbi agent's text messaging. >> and rosenstein responded by explaining in his view that political affiliations or opinions are different from bias and he said he and special counsel mueller have worked together to insure political views are not a factor in any investigation but that really hasn't satisfied republicans and they say the texts with an fbi lawyer calling trump an idiot and loathsome during the campaign -- well, said th...

To add is that jack barsky who was on earlier made a really good point which is, you know, don't really look at what the trump campaign was trying to, you know, do in terms of intentional collusion. look at what the russians were doing. these guys have been doing this for decades. they're really, really good at it, and they have a concept called, you know, you know, useful idiots in which they're playing these guys, naive people, maybe well-meaning or whatever, but, you know, they, you know, systematically were going after people in trump campaign, picking them off, isolating them and trying t...

You've got to look at the russians as much as you are looking at the trump people and seeing what kind of puppet strings they were pulling. >> do you want to weigh in? >> yeah, you know one thing that josh was talking about was, you know, for example how unbelievable these i don't recalls are. and i think as a lawyer, you know, if jared kushner for example is charged with something else, if he's done some other crime, you know, all of these i don't recalls, all of these inconsistent statements will be used against him if he takes the witness stand. and that's where, you know, for any of these ...