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They were making platform changes and all these different things. >> yeah. very curious. >> why would anyone think there was collusion between a member of the trump campaign and russia? >> it was being sarcastic? >> yes. think about the issue of all along we have been talking about this collusion and what it meant, the coordination, maybe change of information, somebody in trump tower wanting to get information that might help the campaign in some way and whether or not putin or anyone in russia that is my up would want to see him succeed with internet trolls to do so in a way that infused rhe...

Vice president pence to try to hold the line and stop any further republican affections. we are on capitol hill live. more than 800,000 americans aren't getting paid because of the shutdown. how close is president trump to losing more republican support for his side in this? >> it is not a matter of if or when. they are growing increasingly skiddish. there is one house republican lawmaker that has been a vacuum of information about what the strategy is from the white house, what the way out of this is for the white house right now. to your point that is exactly one of the primary reasons mike ...

It lets people know there is a coordinated effort that oversaw the entire campaign. >> and the manafort legal team argues he did not intentionally lie about this meeting. they say he failed to recollect some of the information. does it matter whether he failed to remember or did so on purpose? >> you have to actually have some basis as a prosecutor say the person dated intention natalie and with bad faith not a failure to recall if it could not have been recalled and if there were not other ways to upper mind you. i cannot imagine he could say tell me everything that happened on this day durin...

Correctly, okay? manafort who was the campaign chairman while he was campaign chairman was in madrid. he met with somebody who was likely tied to russian military intelligence. he was sharing insider campaign information. why were the russians interested? how big a story is this? >> i think it could be a big story. the other thing is we know this because his lawyers told us this information. so that's another thing. the question is if mueller has been able to tie all of these threads together behind the scenes we know they wanted inside information about the trump campaign. we know they are ru...

There anything else. >> i think we definitely need to have the mueller information, but there may be other facts that come out. >> like what? >> right now our focus needs to remain on coming up with common sense solutions that matter to american families. that is why they sent us to congress, that's what they're looking for. >> what else do you think would be impeachable offenses? >> i'm not going to dictate our members of congress. >> if you're talking about the results of the mueller investigation, or if there is behavioral issues, et cetera. >> the mueller investigation is definitely the pr...