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It is nice to say this to try to get a head on one issue for the election than anything else, but it is quite cynical to do it now. >> greg: it seems to me, jessica, have elections every six weeks that way the dems might actually care and act. we have to wait every two years now for them to actually do something. i guess we could -- >> jessica: i think that is a different kind of campaign reform. it would be exhausting but i think politicians need to be held accountable on both sides of the aisle in a consistent manner. we have been talking about the state of crime. things that you will petty,...

According to police data, Denver has seen its violent crime rise by 10.4% since last year. In New York City, violent crime has risen 27.8% from last year, a historically bloody year in the United States.

Police to say what do you think about rising crime rates and murders in this country, and just to sort of drive that home, some fbi murder statistics. black murder vices 2019, 7,000, and then over 9,000, increase of 32%. whites, 5787 were killed, 2020, 7,029. increase of 22%. when you factor in the blacks make up 13.4% of the population in the country, numbers are disproportionate. yet the companies that we talked to, will, who were out there supporting black lives matter and defund the police had nothing to say. >> that's the definition what you just laid out, john, of a "disparate" impact. w...

Hundreds of thousands of engagements between police and community occur and no one ever sees it. all we see is whenever something goes wrong with police and the truth of the matter is we are getting better at this but granted, professional development is something that should be ever so evolving in the process. harris: that's a very balanced look at it. now understand why you go into communities and you do the same thing. what are you seeing that is working and what does the process need to build trust? you come from chicago and the murder statistics there are rough. >> first and foremost, the...

All we see is whenever something goes wrong with police. but the truth of the matter is we are getting better at this. but professional development should be evolving in the process. harris: that's a very balanced look at it. you go into community and you are doing the same things. what are you seeing that's working, and what do you do to build trust. you come from chicago and the murder statistics are rough. >> the trust has to be there but at t the same time there is a lt of distrust because once the officer is shooting on a murder, they cross the ts and dot the is. they put the paperwork th...