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I use the ralph nader story, a little bit of it, in order to set this up because, a, they're in florida and, b, i wonder if this means the clinton campaign is worried about the green party candidate or the libertarian party candidate taking some votes in places like florida? >> i think they are. when you look at the pattern of support for most of the green votes, if they come from either of them, come from clinton and the libertarian vote, but as gary johnson has added votes he's taken more away from clinton. and you know, there's been controversy did nader cost gore the election? i think the ...

Candidate or the libertarian party candidate taking some votes in places like florida? >> i think they are. when you look at the pattern of support for most of the green votes, if they come from either of them, come from clinton and the libertarian vote, but as gary johnson has added votes he's taken more away from clinton. and you know, there's been controversy did nader cost gore the election? i think the evidence is pretty clear. even a political science study desied to debunk the nader effect found that nader voters are about 3-2 for al gore. so that would have tipped the result in florida...

And you know, there's been controversy did nader cost gore the election? i think the evidence is pretty clear. even a political science study designed to debunk the nader effect found that nader voters are about 3-2 for al gore. so that would have tipped the result in florida that the supreme court had ratified. and so i think gore's message is very pointed, which is, you know, third parties have played a noble role in our history, socialist, farmer, labor rights, libertarians. but you have to decide if it really doesn't matter to you if al gore -- if donald trump gets elected president in ord...