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That's the great journal question. why aren't republican staff people, key people in the party from the robo room to chief of staff to top people in the party, gay people, how come they're not saying anything? there is a great question. stand up. go to the window and yell you're not going to take it anymore. >> they won't do that. >> why not? they're constrained by the nonsense by the position they're forced into by the people they support. >> we were talking just now about the fact that this may appeal very much to the president's base but what about so many -- >> it is going to appeal -- >> ...

On the wrong side of history on this question, and doesn't say that his position has changed and of course we got the evolving answer in 2010 and now this. i think you do see sort of this evolution and it is over an eight year period politically. the question and i heard you and chris talking with this, what kind of real world effect will this have? eight years ago i think we saw that there was gay marriage was being used as a wedge issue between the two either pass. fast forward to today. i do not see the republican party trying to use this as a wedge today. they have largely been silent on t...

Discussion at this point in the campaign. you know, you can call it biden being biden, once he opened his mouth, this question was going to be out there and the president cannot afford to look wishy washy on something like this, so he was going to have to address it, and to his credit he did not -- you did not go halfway. he went whole hog. >> he absolutely did. karen, what about the potential fight back now? i am assuming that a number of conservatives are going to use this issue to harang and attack the president and in certain swing states where there are large populations of working class ...