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Rejected. so he is really out on his own here and as gloria said, he's hoping the base both approves of this story and thus turns out in suv numbe -- in sufficient numbers in the election. and i am one of the people who predicted hillary clinton would win last time so you i don't know what will happen in the midterms but it is quite clear this is a base-driven strategy by the president. >> samantha, the president likes to frame this whole debate as one of security and border security. you have to deal with crime. these immigrants coming in illegally ab mu illegal and -- much less likely to com...

Who supported president trump. the southern baptist convention passed a resolution stating, quote, got commands his people to treat immigrants the same as those native born. we include an emphasis on securing our borders and providing a pathway to legal status, maintaining the priority of family unity. joining me now is the acting deputy commissioner of the u.s. customs and border protection. sir, thank you for joining me. i notice you've got a black bar across your shield. can you tell us a bit about that. >> yeah, unfortunately we lost an intelligence officer outside of grand forks, north da...

And these people disrespect us by coming here illegally, by disrespecting our laws, by breaking them, by coming here, and committing crimes! i'm not anti-immigrant. my beautiful immigrant wife is in the next room over. she came here legally with her family, built a wonderful life. immigrants are an important part of american culture. but it's a big lie, the big lie we have been fed is that every immigrant is wonderful. they are not all wonderful. there are crimes being committed, and the people paying the price are american citizens citizens, -- >> they are more likely to be law-abiding citize...

Maybe we should take the immigrant population about them in charge in washington and figure out how to fight the crime endemic amongst the native born. >> shannon: i think kurt will explode. go ahead. what we know for me -- from the statistics, they are here on drug charges, either smuggling drugs, dealing in drugs, that kf thing. >> gosh, i thought they were all aspiring valedictorians, shannon. >> shannon: some of them are. >> in federal prison? >> shannon: speed but not of tht other immigrants. >> migrants and immigrants can be valedictorians. >> come isaac. apparently we've got to import a...

Years. welfare use does not go down over time. >> laura: are you talking about welfare, social security, medicare? >> all programs. medicaid, food stamps, public housing. if we look at all that, 51% of immigrant households will bend in the united states for 20 years access those programs. it's 30% for the native-born. it's a problem. not just for for a new lender s him and that's been getting worse. it's a problem overall, including for the well-established. >> laura: raul, last word. >> going back to your point about the facts. u.s. department of agriculture which administers the food stamp p...