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Nonwhite share of the vote doubled to 28% in 2013 from 13% in 84. the reality is that the nonwhite share of the vote will keep growing if the gop leaves nonwhite voters to the democrats, then it's margins and safe congressional districts, and red states will dwindle. who has the right answer, steve schmidt? >> karl rove is right. it's a foolish argument. certainly when you look at the white vote, mitt romney underperformed with certain sections of the white vote. in 2004, george w. bush re-elected, got 44% of the hispanic vote. the electorate in the next presidential election will be 2% less w...

All of the other stuff they're just not that interested in doing it. and that's the reason that it's really hard to see how immigration reform gets done, despite the fact that george bush is for it despite the fact that marco rubio's for it despite the fact that steve schmitt will advocate for it now. >> let me ask. steve, there's a theory with growing momentum that republicans don't need hispanic votes. that they need more white votes. this is a conservative activist voicing that argument in a may radio interview. >> the people of the republican should reach out to are the white votes that th...

That if it came through the house. that's where john boehner finds himself. as we speak right now, you have all these republicans sitting in one room talking about immigration reform. you have leadership saying, come on, weave got do something, guys. range and file is saying sure, we'll do something on border security. all of the other stuff they're just not that interested in doing it. and that's the reason that it's really hard to see how immigration reform gets done, despite the fact that george bush is for it despite the fact that marco rubio's for it despite the fact that steve schmitt wi...

Less white than it was in 2012, which was 2% less white from 2008. so if it were to be a national political party we can't perform in the 20s heading into the teen with hispanic voters. this is an enormous problem for the country. house republicans fancy themselves of people with solutions of big national problems. at least that's what they say rhetorically. when it comes to fixing these problems, they seem to be awol from the field. >> steve, all politics are local. and they're not focused on 2016. they're focused on themselves in 2014. >> well, there's no question, the point that you made th...