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That is as much the president likes golf as much as an effort to say, here i am with the great dealmaker, the reasonable guy that everybody likes, regardless of whether clinton's actually giving him any advice on this although i'm sure he is. >> if you look back to the health care debate obama tried to appear reasonable last time and that didn't work well for him. what he's doing now is all the things he didn't do last time. starting with the unreasonable position, with what he wants rather than what he thinks he'll get which is a better bargaining position. he's going out and trying to get pe...

Boehner would prefer. >> when we had the lame duck bush tax cut extension, which frustrated a lot of people, myself included, a lot of people on this network, okay? afterwards, if you would talk to someone from the white house, they would say, no, no, no. we've got this. we've got it all set up now, because it's going to all expire at the same me and we're goingth e all the leverage because they're going to expire. we're going to have the leverage. i was skeptical of that. but i think it is true from a negotiating standpoint, they really do have the leverage. you have people saying, oh, walk a...

Let me play what he had to say. >> the president is willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 9d 8% of the american peopl and make them permanent, we should do that and continue to fight for the things we believe in. >> so, chris, you know john boehner said tom cole is a friend of mine, but i disagree with what he had to say. chuck todd's analysis is that this could be great for boehner from a negotiating standpoint. does tom cole play into all this? >> he certainly does. what tom cole is thinking is leverage. and right now democrats have a lot of leverage. they can make the case to the a...

I think that he should let obama lead the charge and then they can cut it to ribbons if they want. i think for him to come out first was a big mistake. he should have led from a negotiating standpoint and let obama and democrats come out with first proposal. and then he can start rooti ish from there. >> you talk about political negotiation. i want to understand your substance and where you want to end up and end point where you want to get to and figure out negotiating strategy. >> let me just tell you -- >> let me ask this question -- >> i want to end up with a rich country again. right now ...

Inside of russia, and i think he was more concerned that she was going to be more rigid on certain issues, particularly on human rights and other issues. >> but what was donald trump going to do for them then, or was it just that they didn't like hillary? >> no, i think they felt that mr. trump being a bit of an outsider, that they have in the past had some good relations with businessmen who happen to elevate into positions of government authority, and so felt as though from a negotiating standpoint that he might be more -- >> so good relations. if that's true, one of the questions that i hav...