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did not have the visual displays they are required, so i find that interesting. i think it is also of note the resolution states that a permit that is not signed is just as valid as one that is. the permit was not required. i think we all agree to this. and ms. oswood s remarks they did seek the permit to clean up the paperwork. i would only say that i have not known anyone in the city to ever seek a permit when it wasn t required. it is not something people take on without motive, i think i would say. and commissioners, there s a lot of other issues here, but i think i ll leave it at that for now and make myself available for your questions should you have any. mr. sider, i ll ask you the same questions i asked the appellant. on the notice to a property owner for an abandoned sign, is that a mandatory notice or is it a friendly notice? it is our practice when a legal sign appears to be abandoned, it is our practice to notify the parties involved. ok. it is not ....
and i realized that maybe five minutes after the inspector tried to convince me that i had done it. i was in such dismay. i ve never broken the law. i didn t know and kept arguing with the police officer i had not sold to a minor. and that s why i wish nellie had been here, nellie gordon, because she will testify to that. thank you. dr. ocho, you also have a rebuttal? nonen? then commissioners, the matter is submitted. i m going to start. for the record, i am a bernel heights resident and have gone into the store. i would i could vouch for the fact i didn t know they sold cigarettes either. and i ve gone in the store maybe twice to buy things other than cigarettes. but i think, and i have the same question that my co-commissioner peterson had about the odd look and shape of the new card and why it wouldn t cause someone to pause. and normally i m very inclined to impose the department s recommendation on a suspension, but under these circumstances, i think many of ....
abandoned, it is our practice to notify the parties involved. ok. it is not something that appears in the planning code or elsewhere. mr. duffy, anything further? no? ok, then, commissioners, the matter is submitted. commissioner s, thoughts? i have some thoughts on it. in recognizing that the issue of whether the sign was abandoned or not is not before us. my question is related to notice just to see what exactly administratively procedures frame this kind of process. and the only real definitive process that i see here is one that was assigned a signed permit issued in 1999, in essence is a building permit, issued and controlled by the building department. the building department s processs are slightly different than the planning department. their process is their processes relate to a fixed time frame that potentially is a little different than the planning department. but both departments have time frames in which something has to be acted upon and fi ....
think i ll leave it at that for now and make myself available for your questions should you have any. mr. sider, i ll ask you the same questions i asked the appellant. on the notice to a property owner for an abandoned sign, is that a mandatory notice or is it a friendly notice? it is our practice when a legal sign appears to be abandoned, it is our practice to notify the parties involved. ok. it is not something that appears in the planning code or elsewhere. mr. duffy, anything further? no? ok, then, commissioners, the matter is submitted. commissioner s, thoughts? i have some thoughts on it. in recognizing that the issue of whether the sign was abandoned or not is not before us. my question is related to notice just to see what exactly administratively procedures frame this kind of process. and the only real definitive process that i see here is one that was assigned a signed permit issued in 1999, in essence is a building permit, issued and controlle ....
about the odd look and shape of the new card and why it wouldn t cause someone to pause. and normally i m very inclined to impose the department s recommendation on a suspension, but under these circumstances, i think many of the facts that compel me to think the situation is unique in that the child, or the decoy was associating with children i mean not children, but young adults, and the distractions and the effort that i believe the appellant made in trying to do that while running the store , to do the calculation of math, i can see that under these particular circumstances i would be a little more lenient than normal. i m actually leaning the other way. i understand the decoy ms. lazar felt sorry for the store owner, and i do, too, and yet the department could go up to 90 days and instead imposed 25 days. so i m actually inclined to support the department. commissioners, we ve had many tobacco cases come in front of us and, you know, the early ones we all tri ....