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Gains or wins from this. pretty much everyone loses. what we are seeing from democrats who are trying to stuff nonspending measures into a spending bill by daca and via chip, the things the republicans have given away on chip' and conceded that but daca, this dug-in kind of trench-like war fare we are seeing like world war i trying to get this moved through. i can see this happen at least another week. >> yeah. is a vow, errol, to deal with immigration later, is it believable? are there assurances that need to be tied to that? >> the democrats don't believe that that is a good faith effort and...

>> he told him the leader told him that is going to happen. whether that goes down, you really can't say. the reality is for that to have any meaning you have to keep in mind it's not just the majority leader mcconnell who would determine it. he could calendar it but the reality is chuck schumer and the democrats have to be involved. these are 60 vote margins by which you have to make these things happen and unless there is a full and true conversation, we are back where we started and where we are right now, where you have a government shutdown. you have an undone or unfinished at least netin...