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Here's my colleague and friend and she joins me now. simone, good to see you my friend. let's talk about this. no doubt, there is the elephant in the room. donald trump standing after ten hearings after supporting all of these election deniers and tires who didn't win. then he's running for president and he put out this nft cards of him in a superhero costume. they have lost value. donald trump is having a rough time, right now. >> he is having a rough time, and i think, kudos to the good journalism of the january six committee who has stayed on the story and dug deep to get the details about ...

New york times today, trump is significantly diminished, a shrunken present on the political landscape. and quote. simone tan -- townsend served as a deputy assistant to president biden as well as chief spokesperson to vice president harris. she is the host of simone on peacock and msnbc. here's my colleague and friend and she joins me now. simone, good to see you my friend. let's talk about this. no doubt, there is the elephant in the room. donald trump standing after ten hearings after supporting all of these election deniers and tires who didn't win. then he's running for president and he p...

We talk about the nft cards, for example. they still sold out in less than a day. >> well, that's true. >> my question -- so i wonder if the former presidents stat scheer has the medulla among officials, i think that is true within the republican party. but where does he stand with the people? i think that in that story that -- was so greatly done. the republican elected officials in the new york times story, former chair's republican party pennsylvania. i don't know that the people are still with them in, perhaps they don't know as much as they think they do. >> where the people, simone? who ...

Measurable way that trump's grip on the republican party is loosening. and that more, every day republicans, not only the politicians but even that base are looking to other people, whether it is desantis or another governor, somebody else, to be that standard bearer instead of donald trump. this is a unique dynamic for him, from when he first rose in 2015. he is not the same charismatic new kid on the block in politics, charming folks with his outsized personality and we are way of doing things and catching everybody's attention. he does seem to be fading, in a very measurable way. >> he is a...

Nation from the left and biden, and yet he's now these nft cards for $99? what's next, howie, celebrity autograph appearances at an auto show? come on. howard: again, he hasn't actually been out campaigning sin he announced, but one day -- we shouldn't laugh. they sold out, and now people are bidding thousands of dollars for it which means a nice payday for the former president. after the break -- thanks, grifa measure legalizing same-sex marriage. ♪ ♪ getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee. all it takes is eight minutes to get start...