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Hawaii hit by tropical storm olivia, and we finished the largest fire in the history of california a month ago. every night on the television news is like a nature hike through the book of revelation. >> and presidential leadership in the moments of crisis is very, very important as you know, and better than anyone having been in the white house, what does it say to america when in the aftermath of the storm a year ago in puerto rico, and in the united states that the president of the united states denies a scientific death count? >> from his own administration. >> and as if there were not 3,0...

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What did he have to say? >> yes, that is right. it is interesting, andrea, because he said that first of all at the time of her testimony, he believed her allegations about sexual harassment about clarence thomas, and biden came under criticism as you will remember for the way he handled the hearings and for intense and the personal and probing questions that he allowed from the committee members into the testimony. he said that one of the challenges is that and one of the regrets is that he was not able to control the questioning from the fellow members, and that is a lesson for today, and he...

Bit and she was really clear with "the washington post", she said, now i feel like my civic responsibility is outweighing my anguish and temporary about retaliation. so now she is ready to come forward, and that's a change from the early weeks there. >> and they're both apparently ready to testify in open session before the senate judiciary committee under oath, and if one of them is lying that's perjury. >> that's where we are, and they're eager to do it. >> all right. let's see what happens. thank you very much. joining us now, democratic senator tammy duckworth of illinois. senator, thanks ...

Investigate a very serious allegation about somebody who could be confirmed for a lifetime appointment to the supreme court. i think they have to find a way to have some decorum and to get answers to questions that are not political but are rather substantive and factual. i think ron's idea is a pretty good one. >> it is a good point you're making. >> yeah. >> i want to get jeffrey toobin to weigh in as well. how do you see it playing out? >> i think ron clane has a characteristically excellent idea. however, can you imagine all of these senators, including prospective presidential candidates ...