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About some of those key class themes we went over in our interview with Cecil Williams. Now, this was quite a shoot. Its a fantastic church out in san francisco, and reverend williams said some Amazing Things about religion on this. But for the crew, what made the day, actually, it was my birthday i went to church on my birthday when we did this shoot, and it was chaos. I mean, thousands of people around, nobody knew where we were supposed to go, were sitting down with all our equipment like some rock stars on a battle of the bands, hanging around there, just waiting for stuff to happen. And a...

[male voice ] so be it. [crowd ] so be it. [male voice ] tonight [crowd ] tonight [dr. Simons ] this is armageddon, the field of armageddon. This is definitely not your fathers oldsmobile. Were at the western wall, the last remaining wall of the second temple. Were at the San Francisco zen center. It was the site of illinois greatest religious drama the exodus of the mormons. This is the spot where jesus reputedly cried for jerusalem. [ music ] [male voice ] im not talking about god or buddha. [ music ] [female voice ] at the end of it, what is it for . For peace. [male voice ] you just discov...

And this is, in a way, i think a little synchronicity here. Maybe its good we didnt get it in the last class because its a good way to prompt some of the questions you might have about some of those key class themes we went over in our interview with Cecil Williams. Now, this was quite a shoot. Its a fantastic church out in san francisco, and reverend williams said some Amazing Things about religion on this. But for the crew, what made the day, actually, it was my birthday i went to church on my birthday when we did this shoot, and it was chaos. I mean, thousands of people around, nobody knew ...

The people who are now moderate and liberal and black protestants are not in the surge towards fundamentalism. Hard core fundamentalism, i dont think has as much future as moderate evangelicals and the pentecostals. I think thats where the future is. Its pretty hard to stay hardcore fundamentalist in america. There are so many lures out there and to build rather thick walls is frustrating. It will remain around, but i would watch much more for the exuberant groups black pentecostal, white pentecostal and moderate evangelical. [interviewer ] okay, one of the difficulties people come uwith when ...

[male voice ] so be it. [crowd ] so be it. [male voice ] tonight [crowd ] tonight [dr. Simons ] this is armageddon, the field of armageddon. This is definitely not your fathers oldsmobile. Were at the western wall, the last remaining wall of the second temple. Were at the San Francisco zen center. It was the site of illinois greatest religious drama the exodus of the mormons. This is the spot where jesus reputedly cried for jerusalem. [ music ] [male voice ] im not talking about god or buddha. [ music ] [female voice ] at the end of it, what is it for . For peace. [male voice ] you just discov...